Mowing trailer for 1050 with front loder & backhoe

[jansr]

Q .? I just bought JD 1050 with front loader and backhoe looking to buy trailer. ??? how much weight am I looking at ? I found Big Tex 60 SP that would fit my budget but has 6000 GVWR ..is it OK to put it on ?
I am greener than the tractor so any common sence from You gays is greatly appriciated.

Love this forum allredy !

Thanks Jan

 

[jenkinsph]

I would look for a Big Tex 10PI trailer 18-20 ft to haul your rig. Get brakes on both axles and a spare to start with. These trailers pull well on the highway and load the tractor close to the ground keeping the center of gravity lower, thus safer. This trailers payload is approximately 7500 lbs.

I have several trailers including a 12PI Big Tex very well satisfied with it.

 

[farmboy12]

Welcome to the forum!

We are glad to help, as there are plenty of smart people on here with wonderful advice to share.

I agree with jenkinsph, go for something that can hold your tractor and more, with brakes, and get it longer than you think you'll need.

Also, it would be great to know what you will be pulling with, as this can advise us more as to what your tow vehicle is capable of and will let us give you the advice needed.

Welcome to the forum again! Have a nice night, and good luck on your purchase.


Kyle

 

[Barely Smokin']

Also, I prefer a flat deck so you can side-load them with pallet forks without worrying about wheel wells getting in the way...

 

[farmboy12]

Also, I prefer a flat deck so you can side-load them with pallet forks without worrying about wheel wells getting in the way...

Yes, but that is about the only benefit. We have a 16' + 4' 24,000# bumperpull deckover now, it weighs 4500# empty. We tow it with a 3/4 gasser. We use it for pallets about 10-15 times a year, and that is about the only reason we don't get rid of it. Before this we had a lowboy style before this, and we all agree it was better except for pallets. Since we will probably be going into a bigger truck, our next set will probably be a 18' lowboy, and a 30'-35' gooseneck deckover for the pallets and heavier, rarer use. It's all a matter of what your uses are and how you drive, and how safely you want to load and haul. With a deckover, you go up a steeper incline to load, it has a higher center of gravity, there's no room for error if a strap snaps and the tractor slides, no wheel wells for that, it is harder to step onto, as well as a few other things.



Kyle

 

[jenkinsph]

I suggested the Big Tex 10PI because it is in a range to carry the rig the OP specified and another heavy attachment if needed. This is a low deck pipe trailer which is perfect for the compact tractors. The trailer needs to be long enough to properly balance the load on the trailer, sometimes the short trailers don't allow this to happen.

There are other similar trailers by other manufacturers that may be equal but my own experience with Big Tex has been good.

 

[TGF]

I am also looking into trailers. Everyone around here seems to sell H&H. The one I am looking at for my 3038E with 305 Loader (2800lbs) is a 6000 pound flatbed tandem axle dove tail. The guy at the trailer store says it has 1 electric brake on the rear axle. I plan on pulling it with a Dakota which has a tongue weight of 500 pounds a tow weight of 6700 pounds and a payload weight of 2000 pounds. He said a 7k trailer would work also but that 6k is probably going to be max or above max tow should i load it up all the way.

That said since we are talking about trailers, what other information is good to have? Where the wheels are on the trailer how it loads, etc?

Also the trailer is 16 ft long and 8.5 wide. The axles seem just back of center.

 

[BobT_770]

I may have posted this before. My tractor on my 12k 16+2.5 trailer. Note how long things are. I also had too little tongue wt in these pics so made adjustments. Bottom line is get a long fender trailer with a beaver tail and you won't regret it. Need a deckover?? Borrow one

 

[Barely Smokin']

Yes, but that is about the only benefit. We have a 16' + 4' 24,000# bumperpull deckover now, it weighs 4500# empty. We tow it with a 3/4 gasser. We use it for pallets about 10-15 times a year, and that is about the only reason we don't get rid of it. Before this we had a lowboy style before this, and we all agree it was better except for pallets. Since we will probably be going into a bigger truck, our next set will probably be a 18' lowboy, and a 30'-35' gooseneck deckover for the pallets and heavier, rarer use. It's all a matter of what your uses are and how you drive, and how safely you want to load and haul. With a deckover, you go up a steeper incline to load, it has a higher center of gravity, there's no room for error if a strap snaps and the tractor slides, no wheel wells for that, it is harder to step onto, as well as a few other things.



Kyle

Chalk it up to a matter of preference.

I find my flat deck useful when I have to travel with several implements. If you can't side load them, you have to sling them under the loader and drive up the ramp or disconnect the trailer and put them in your truck. That's not fun.

Also, if you ever want to side load lumber, pipes, logs, drywall, tin roofing, OSB, etc. in the neighborhood of 8' or longer, you won't be doing that with a lowboy. Pallets also a problem, as mentioned.

A deckover also has tie down points along the sides that would normally be occupied by wheel wells.

I never had trouble loading my old deckover...except with sports cars. No issues with stability, even with my backhoe. I wish I still had it.

The first time I went to the lumber yard with my new lowboy and hand loaded a couple forklift loads of 2x material on to my trailer and then hand unloaded it when I got home, I was REALLY missing my deckover.

PO probably will be fine with a smallish lowboy. But, who knows? And there's my .02.

 

[BobT_770]

People have mentioned "Low-Boy" in this thread. I know my trailer, albeit a fender equipment trailer, is not a low-boy. My Wheels are 16" and the tires are a stout 235/85-16. In my experience the 'Low Boy" trailers have those UTG wheels and small stiff F or G-rated little 8-14.5 tires.

If I am mistaken, please clarify so that this does not become misinformation

 

[Barely Smokin']

People have mentioned "Low-Boy" in this thread. I know my trailer, albeit a fender equipment trailer, is not a low-boy. My Wheels are 16" and the tires are a stout 235/85-16. In my experience the 'Low Boy" trailers have those UTG wheels and small stiff F or G-rated little 8-14.5 tires.

If I am mistaken, please clarify so that this does not become misinformation

Bob, we've got the same trailer, spec-wise. :thumbsup: Equipment Pro? Yours 14k gross? It's a great tractor trailer but not the best material hauling trailer, IMO, and too small for my BH unless the FEL is up.

Indeed, we're playing a little fast and loose with terminology. "Low boy" is a full blown semi-trailer, from what I know. I used to refer to ours as "low decks", with flat decks/deck-overs being the ones without the fenders, and higher.

 

[Ordite]

I am also looking into trailers. Everyone around here seems to sell H&H. The one I am looking at for my 3038E with 305 Loader (2800lbs) is a 6000 pound flatbed tandem axle dove tail. The guy at the trailer store says it has 1 electric brake on the rear axle. I plan on pulling it with a Dakota which has a tongue weight of 500 pounds a tow weight of 6700 pounds and a payload weight of 2000 pounds. He said a 7k trailer would work also but that 6k is probably going to be max or above max tow should i load it up all the way.

That said since we are talking about trailers, what other information is good to have? Where the wheels are on the trailer how it loads, etc?

Also the trailer is 16 ft long and 8.5 wide. The axles seem just back of center.

The H & H trailer company, Bradyville, IA is now out of business. There is still a fair supply of trailers on dealers lots but you will be purchasing an orphan. No manufacturer's warranty.

 

[TGF]

The H & H trailer company, Bradyville, IA is now out of business. There is still a fair supply of trailers on dealers lots but you will be purchasing an orphan. No manufacturer's warranty.

That explains the good price.

 

[AKfish]

Chalk it up to a matter of preference.

Also, if you ever want to side load lumber, pipes, logs, drywall, tin roofing, OSB, etc. in the neighborhood of 8' or longer, you won't be doing that with a lowboy. Pallets also a problem, as mentioned.

A deckover also has tie down points along the sides that would normally be occupied by wheel wells.

The first time I went to the lumber yard with my new lowboy and hand loaded a couple forklift loads of 2x material on to my trailer and then hand unloaded it when I got home, I was REALLY missing my deckover.

Couldn't have said it any better...!!!

Just got back from a 9,000 mile haul with JD 336 baler, Kuhn DM400 disc mower and a 40 gal. sprayer, etc, etc.

With a goose-neck deckover across some of the worst roads in North America! :thumbsup:

Don't miss my tilt-deck equipment BUMPER-PULL trailer - at all!

AKfish

 

[jansr]

Thanks all for your replys !
Thanks for cooling my head too !
I was in a guys yard for a transfer tank and he had that trailer .Not knowing the basics I am glad I asked you.
It was my 13 Y old who pointed to me that it is not only tractors and trailers that I have to learn more about but also speling !!: :confused2:
My deep appologies to you gentlemen !

I was not around for few days .I was trying to solve some hydraulic problems.

So much to do in so little time !
Thanks again Jan