Tractor sale gone sour.

Chief · Jun 10, 2003

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Now you have my attention piqued. I hate to see stuff like this happen. What is the current status of you dilema now?

Tractors4u · Jun 10, 2003

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It is still going on. I talked to the investigator a few days ago and he is getting the run around from the police department up there. Each time he calls they tell him he needs to talk to someone else.

Gary_in_Indiana · Jun 10, 2003

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 Each time he calls they tell him he needs to talk to someone else. 

I've been months trying to recover a semi tractor from a delinquent lease customer. I've done all the right things; court order for writ of replevin, report of theft, NCIC entry and still get what I consider a run around from authorities. I know where these people live. The equipment is not there. Police won't even go and ask them for it. Two different states involved and the state where it likely is won't take it upon themselves to do anything as it's not an issue in one of their courts, etc.

I have to tell you...the more time I spend dealing with 'the system' on things like this, the more I wonder why more people aren't on the other side of it. It's truly disheartening.

dmccarty · Jun 10, 2003

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Brent,

I'm assuming that you are talking with the Winston Salem PD.
You could try the sheriff for the county he would have legal
jurisdiction to serve the warrent but he might not want to
since it sounds like the guy is in the city. It might be worth
a try. Have you tried to talk to someone else in the PD?
Someone up the chain of command. You could also try the
DA office and see what they can do.

Later,
Dan

Chief · Jun 10, 2003

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Brent, I sure hope you can get this worked out to your liking if that is even possible now. I can imagine your sense of frustration. You would think that if you contact the NC police dept. and explained the situation and offered to meet them with trailer in tow to pick the tractor up. They would at least assist you is reposessing the tractor.

Boone · Jun 11, 2003

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Brent,
How is this going? Did you try talking with the NC local chief of police? If these guys can't go after a simple crook for you maybe putting a media spotlight on the city and their police would help. Good luck.

Tractors4u · Jun 11, 2003

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I just talked to the High Point Police department. They are saying that the warrant is not showing up in the NCIC. I called my investigator and he was checking it out. He says that he has called up there numerous times. Why is it I find this out on my second call. He is checking it out and is supposed to call me back. Maybe when they get this straightened out things will start happening.

Tractors4u · Jun 18, 2003

Re: Tractor sale gone sour. Update II

Today I talked to someone different for the 3rd time and found out why the warrant has not been served. There were two guys by the same name when the investigator looked up the guys information. One with a 1965 birthdate and my guy with a 1955 birthdate. It seems that the person putting the info into the NCIC put the 1965 date with my guys info and when High Point PD tried to look it up it wasn't showing up. The very nice lady I talked to did a few very generic searches not using anything but the guys name and it showed up. They had been using his name and address to find his driver's license number and then searching. From talking to the lady there is one thing doesn't mesh with the correct records it screws up the search. She read the warrant info that she found and it was the same charge and said full extradition. She said to call her back when it was fixed and she would notify whoever up there at their department so they could pick him up. I called the sheriff's office and they are going to fix the NCIC submission tomorrow morning. Maybe something will happen now.

Bird · Jun 18, 2003

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( one thing doesn't mesh with the correct records it screws up the search )

Yep, these danged computers want you to be exact. I once had an irate citizen because he had reported his pickup truck stolen and learned that it had been impounded in the police auto pound and then released back to the thief. All impounded vehicles are checked for stolen, but his hadn't shown up because he had never noticed that there was one digit difference in the VIN on his pickup and the one on his title. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif We got lucky that time, though, because by the time he complained, the thief was back in jail again on another charge and the pickup was in the pound again (undamaged even). /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Chief · Jun 18, 2003

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Great news! Hope something will happen in your favor this time. Would be nice if you could arrange a public flogging for him. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Chief · Jun 24, 2003

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Any word on help from the police and the fate of your tractor???

Tractors4u · Jul 4, 2003

Tractor sale gone sour. In the Jailhouse Now!

Since the post was deleted in the server crash, I though I would repost the good news. The assistant DA for my county called me Tuesday morning to let me know that High Point NC PD had contacted our sheriff's department to inform us that they had the tractor theif in custody.

DavidJ · Jul 4, 2003

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I've been watching this thread for awhile and am glad to hear that something is going in your favor. Maybe you'll get justice after all.

dourobob · Jul 4, 2003

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I hope justice means you get the cash and don't have to worry about how this guy treated the tractor.

Good luck
Bob

Chief · Jul 4, 2003

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Tractors4u, I'm really glad to see you have got some positive movement on this and have the thief you the pokey. I posted my thoughts previously in G rated language but I guess a particular moderator doesn't believe in consistency of policy much less free speech and edited my post down to something that is not my words. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif A simple request to change it would have been just fine. Sure hope you get all of your money back plus your expenses. Have a great 4th of July weekend and enjoy the freedoms so dearly won and the anniversary of a great nation.

Gary_in_Indiana · Jul 4, 2003

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I agree with Bob. You already went through the effort (many times what you should have had to) to sell your machine. I'd hate to think you just get it back with no further compensation.

Sadly, that'll probably be the tradeoff in the criminal courts; You'll get paid as you should have been and he'll get a walk on sentencing if not on the conviction, too.

In the words of comedian Yakov Schmirnov; "What a country!" /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Tractors4u · Sep 29, 2003

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The Saga Continues. There was a Grand Jury Hearing about the case September 17th and I just heard from the DA's office this morning. They said the grand jury did indict the guy and that he has waved extradiction from North Carolina. It seems that he is in jail in Greensboro NC right now for something else. How funny is that? The DA's office says they have a letter that will be sent to NC requesting that they let us have them when they are through with him. I will keep you posted.

JerryG · Sep 29, 2003

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Brent,
Well, great. I guess you will eventually get a shot at him anyway. What ever happened to the tractor? Does he still have it, do the police have it or do you?

jmc · Sep 29, 2003

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I just read this whole saga in one sitting and I've got a bad feeling about that tractor:

A) He's in the vehicle business
B) Tractors don't have the rigorous paper trail of conventional vehicles. Certainly they are useful without registration.
C) He tried to buy several other tractors in the same time frame, before this deal went bad. How many tractors does a guy need that hasn't been around them enough to use a ratchet strap?
D) Now, He's in jail for something other than this job.

I don't think its sitting out behind his barn. Sure hope I'm wrong.

Tractors4u · Sep 29, 2003

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When this whole thing went south back in May he told not to try to come get the tractor because he had it well hidden. I have had people in the area check around to see if they could see the tractor and they didn't. He has since that time bid on owners manuals, keys and other items for small Ford tractors on ebay. He may or may not still have the tractor. I may or may not get the tractor or the money back. The D.A. says he may have a change of heart and ask to have the charges dropped when it comes trial time and will offer to pay up. I would like to have my money back, but I would also like to see him do a little time. It stinks that they would let him walk for doing what he should have done in the first place!