Towing limit

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CajunRider

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Kioti DK45
I have a Toyota Tundra that has a listed towing capacity of 7000 lb. I have a Big Tex trailer model 10EQ that weighs 2350 lb. My tractor is a Kioti DK45 with FEL. Without the box blade or cutter, I think I am very close to the towing capacity limit already. What kind of problem will I have if I choose to tow 1000 lb more than the listed towing capacity.

BTW I am towing in flat land country. No appreciable hill of any kind.

Thanks for the help,
 
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breaks are your biggest concern.

what year tundra? i know the early years lots of guys reported warping front roters when towing heavy loads. (they upgraded them in later years)

a weight distrubuting hitch and a good trailer break controler will do ya lots of good. With the auto tranny your gonna want an aux cooler and a trans temp gauge.

for more informed tundra feedback check out the tundrasolutions forum

Tundra Solutions is where you can research, discuss, price and repair your Toyota, Scion or Lexus
 
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What kind of problem will I have if I choose to tow 1000 lb more than the listed towing capacity.

Is that a loaded question?:D Obviously, the only sensible thing for anyone to tell you is DON'T DO IT! But that's not to say that many of us haven't done it or that it's anything unusual. So . . . ., just a few points for you to consider:
1) When a truck manufacturer establishes their tow rating they don't know whether you live in Louisiana and will be towing only at 30 mph on flat level ground, or whether you live in Colorado and will be towing over the Rocky Mountains at 70 mph, or something in between.
2)tthe tow rating is based not only on what you can pull, but also what you can stop. The truck manufacturer doesn't know whether your trailer has brakes or not.
3) Excessive loads can cause an engine and transmission (or even the differential) to overheat, but again, the truck manufacturer doesn't know whether you're going to be towing in Texas in the summer or Alaska in the winter.
4) Some, but not all, states may stop you and might issue a citation if you're overweight, but it's been my experience that they almost never stop a personal vehicle; only commercial vehicles.
5) In the event you are involved in an accident, especially one that is your fault, your liability may be increased if you're found to be overweight.
6) Since the truck manufacturer didn't know all the things previously mentioned about your trailer and towing, you can bet they built it at least a little "cushion".
7) The truck manufacturer also didn't know how much or what kind of experience and/or training the driver will have had prior to pulling a heavy trailer.

If you don't overheat the engine or transmission, you won't hurt the truck by pulling more than it's rated for, but there may or may not be other reasons for staying within the rated limits.
 
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2006 V8 DoubleCab. I do have a transmission oil cooler.

The trailer has dual axles with electric brake on both. I have a good brake controller installed and tested by the trailer dealer.
 
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Bird said:
5) In the event you are involved in an accident, especially one that is your fault, your liability may be increased if you're found to be overweight.
Oh my, I'm gonna be in trouble with this one.

I've taken care of the transmission oil cooler & the brake issue. I guess I'll just be towing slowly.
 
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Do you have to go over that big %$# bridge over the ship channel in L.C. on I10??

KB
 
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KrumpsBrother said:
Do you have to go over that big %$# bridge over the ship channel in L.C. on I10??

KB
Oh no. I'll most definitely use a much bigger truck if I were to tow my tractor over that bridge.
 
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CajunRider said:
2006 V8 DoubleCab. I do have a transmission oil cooler.

The trailer has dual axles with electric brake on both. I have a good brake controller installed and tested by the trailer dealer.


I have yet to get a trailer from a dealer that had the breaks adjusted correctly. Heck my current trailer had one that would lock up tight and the other 3 wouldn't even start to drag. Not to mention the u-bolts that hold the axles weren't torqued.

Read the book and adjust the breaks. Then when you hit the breaks, don't just feather them, use them. Otherwise you run the risk of the trailer stopping both itself and the truck. THat will heat the breaks up a lot and in severe cases even smoke the bearings.

I have to watch that no mine and I do have a new tenkosha controller.

jb
 
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CajunRider said:
I have a Toyota Tundra that has a listed towing capacity of 7000 lb. I have a Big Tex trailer model 10EQ that weighs 2350 lb. My tractor is a Kioti DK45 with FEL. Without the box blade or cutter, I think I am very close to the towing capacity limit already. What kind of problem will I have if I choose to tow 1000 lb more than the listed towing capacity.

BTW I am towing in flat land country. No appreciable hill of any kind.

Thanks for the help,

Why don't you just take the trailer & tractor to a scale so you know for sure if you're overweight?I'm pretty sure you are, but it would be nice to make sure.
I'm assuming you have a bumper-pull trailer.
My advice if you're overweight would be to change to a 5th wheel trailer if Toyota shows a higher capacity for 5th wheel towing. Most trucks can tow quite a bit more off a 5th wheel than a bumper pull.. You should be able to trade your bumper pull trailer in on a 5th wheel without too much expense. Otherwise, you're looking at a bigger truck or having someone else transport it for you.
 
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john_bud said:
I have yet to get a trailer from a dealer that had the breaks adjusted correctly. Heck my current trailer had one that would lock up tight and the other 3 wouldn't even start to drag. Not to mention the u-bolts that hold the axles weren't torqued.

Read the book and adjust the breaks. Then when you hit the breaks, don't just feather them, use them. Otherwise you run the risk of the trailer stopping both itself and the truck. THat will heat the breaks up a lot and in severe cases even smoke the bearings.

I have to watch that no mine and I do have a new tenkosha controller.

jb

This is my opinion only: the best brake controller I have is a "surge" one on a large boat trailer with double axles with disc brakes on all four wheels. I was told the master cylinder is off the vintage 55' Ford pickups, and is still in production? The master cylinders are new and not rebuilt. Anyway, it is a pleasure to tow!
 

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