Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart

   / Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart #11  
I usually start at just above idle. Somewhere around 1000 rpm. I feel as though the oil pump might develop pressure a little sooner at the slightly higher rpm. I do not believe it will cause any greater damage at that level.

Just my 2 cents..
 
   / Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart #12  
I let idle lowest rpm for couple mins the rise rpm 1500 than slowly exercise attachment more so in the winter.
 
   / Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart #13  
I own 4 Kubotas -- 3 older B2150 4 cyl and one BX2200 3 cyl. None of them reduce back to idle once they start. They go straight to whatever I have the throttle set at. Have not tried it on the larger MF2660 yet.
Maybe I should distill that a bit for you.. You leave the throttle at the idle setting prior to starting and the injection pump (if they are mechanical) advances the throttle internally to 100% until the motor starts and then immediately returns to the throttle setting you have set, in my case, base idle. How they all work (at least Bosh style pumps) like are on Kubota tractors. My big truck with it's Cat 3406 operates exactly the same way. maximum fuel on start, immediate reduction on firing. One reason why Cats start so well in the winter, that and their base compression ratio is so high.
 
   / Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart #14  
I let idle lowest rpm for couple mins the rise rpm 1500 than slowly exercise attachment more so in the winter.
Exactly what I do and I never plug mine in in the winter either (no juice in the barn anyway). Pre heat the glow plugs about 20 seconds are crank it. Usually starts right up at an idle. Then I'll run the rpm up to about 1000 and go have a cup of coffee. Some banging and clanging going on but that is all combustion noise.

When they sit in the barn, the fuel tanks are full (to reduce tank condensation) and I shunt the batteries out of circuit too. When I need them, I close the shunt and start them up. That way no chance of any parasitic drain on the starting battery at all. Flooded cell batteries are real efficient at maintaining a charge, especially in the cold weather. Both have block heaters I've never used.
 
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Manual says "half throttle" (1000 rpm) and then reduce after it starts. But I've found it starts better with a low throttle setting (500 rpm). Will be interested to see what happens when the weather gets colder. No turbo on the 7030, but I still let it idle for a few seconds before shutting off.

Thanks for the replys.

Bill
 
   / Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart #16  
Manual says "half throttle" (1000 rpm) and then reduce after it starts. But I've found it starts better with a low throttle setting (500 rpm). Will be interested to see what happens when the weather gets colder. No turbo on the 7030, but I still let it idle for a few seconds before shutting off.

Thanks for the replys.

Bill
I presume that is a common rail, high pressure injection engine and not a mechanically injected engine correct? If so the ECM determines the initial cold fueling rate, not the fuel rail in the injection pump. In reality, you only need to idle a turbo charged motor so the hot side bearings in the turbo can cool down and not turn the now not circulating engine oil to 'coke'. The leading cause of turbo failure is the hot side bearings fail. Pretty easy to tell too. Just remove the intake hose to the turbo and grab the impeller and wiggle it. If it wiggles, it's on it's way out. Once it gets excessive radial play, the impeller hits the scroll housing and destroys itself and the engine too because the 'shrapnel' from the impeller gets ingested in the motor and eats it up.
 

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