TODAYS SEAT TIME

[daugen]

Fred Cain Tractor Subsoiler, 3 point hitch

I bought the Fred Cain subsoiler unit from ETA and it was unbreakable, awesomely strong with an equally bad paint job. I had to almost totally repaint it.
But it doesn't seem to be available anymore, now replaced by an inhouse unit. Webpage not updated; check out the verbiage on this page plus the URL itself.
I have water pipe to lay but it should be easy in mostly sandy soil. But a few years back it took nothing to stop a lightweight tractor against the everpresent granite rocks in PA.

Tomorrow I will go measure the thickness of the main beam steel on the Cain unit.

 

[Samuellm]

Mowed in the neighbors place along the back fence trying to keep the grass off the fence.

It is across a swamp so I left the M5700 at home and used the b1750

 

[xring100]

Agreed, it is annoying. My phone decides which way it orients it depending on how you're holding it when you start recording. I originally thought I was going to be posting a "happy customer" testimonial type video as every other pass had gone smooth and I was nearly done. Wasn't till the video was off and I was backed up for my next and last line that I turned around to see the results. As for the video orientation, I was in a rush and didn't pay much attention. My apologies.

Today was a happier day. Travis at ETA took the proactive step of contacting me on here via private message to setup a replacement part before I had a chance to call him, so that was great. I also got a couple minutes of seat time today, rare for a Monday. I shortened my tiller's shaft to fit and hooked it up for the first time today. Didn't get to do anything with it beyond a small test pass. I'm pleased enough with it for the cost. I wouldn't have wanted to pay money for it, I would have went with something else. KingKutter's paint is horrible. Some parts the paint seems to wipe off with a rag, everything else is covered in runs. There isn't a panel or part without runs and drips, at least 30 runs and drips overall.

Well glad to hear that ETA is being proactive and resolving the issue.

As for angle it was shot facing down i can see how the phone may have been confused and that this wasn't something done intentionally.

 

[Sysop]

Well glad to hear that ETA is being proactive and resolving the issue.

Above and beyond my expectations.

 

[Gordon Gould]

Above and beyond my expectations.

I thought your video was pretty good - clearly showing that you were not being abusive at all especially when you hit the rock and lifted to get over it. What size tractor was your unit rated for ?? Are you going to get something heavier or beef up the original ??

 

[StuartDK45SE]

My church had some pea gravel they wanted gone, so I got me a couple loads. While I was there, two guys also from church, arrived in their pickup and I loaded them up with 3 buckets. Boy, did they get lucky because otherwise all they had were a couple of shovels. My last scoop I just hauled a short distance to the house so I could put it right where I wanted.

 

[Sysop]

I thought your video was pretty good - clearly showing that you were not being abusive at all especially when you hit the rock and lifted to get over it. What size tractor was your unit rated for ?? Are you going to get something heavier or beef up the original ??

I'm not sure they have a "rating" specified in the literature, but Ted's video seems to indicate it is ok for up to about 60HP. Mine only being 40HP I never thought something like that would happen. My 40HP unit just happens to be one of the heaviest 40HP units money can buy and can build a tremendous amount of traction. 6482 pounds for just the tractor, loader, and loaded tires.

I think what partly contributed to the issue was the hydrostat transmission. When I let off the go-pedal, that essentially throws the transmission into infinitely lower gears until stopping, producing more and more torque until stopping. Someone smarter than me told me something that was over my head but I'm pretty sure he's at a minimum, close to accurate: 3/4th inch a36 steel has a yield strength of no less than 250 million pascals... yield strength is the amount of force it can take in bending and snap back to its original shape... you at minimum exceeded 250 million pascals... 250 MPa to ft lbs is 5,221,358 lbs/ft^2 or 36,259 psi. what the **** did you hit? (to which I said "You saw it in the video, I hit nothing. More or less placed it against an immovable object and gave a little tug, twice...)

As for beefing it up, I really don't see a way of beefing it up that would work well enough to have prevented this without affecting the overall performance of the implement. In the future to prevent it from happening again I plan on running it at less than 2000RPM (where I was running it in the video) to produce less power. I also plan on rather than letting off the HST if it comes against something immovable, adjusting the throttle down first so the torque doesn't skyrocket as I release the go-pedal. Hopefully an adjustment in my operation will suffice.

 

[ishiboo]

As for beefing it up, I really don't see a way of beefing it up that would work well enough to have prevented this without affecting the overall performance of the implement. In the future to prevent it from happening again I plan on running it at less than 2000RPM (where I was running it in the video) to produce less power. I also plan on rather than letting off the HST if it comes against something immovable, adjusting the throttle down first so the torque doesn't skyrocket as I release the go-pedal. Hopefully an adjustment in my operation will suffice.

I'm surprised it failed in that manner.

That being said, you can add depth to the shank without really affecting anything.... i.e., a 3/4" wide piece of flat bar 4" deep pulls about the same as a 3/4" wide piece of flat bar 6" deep.

 

[Sysop]

I'm surprised it failed in that manner.

That being said, you can add depth to the shank without really affecting anything.... i.e., a 3/4" wide piece of flat bar 4" deep pulls about the same as a 3/4" wide piece of flat bar 6" deep.

A larger beam will not fit through the lift arm frame. I would need to make major alterations to the triangular shaped lift arm frame to allow a piece of wider 3/4" stock fit, or all the alterations would need done below the frame, transferring all that torque and torsion into the lift frame. I don't think I would achieve the desired results without building something larger entirely from scratch.

 

[hunt4570]

Ok, they call this thing a "root grapple" right? Well we've been bumping over this root in our driveway for a while now but when the wife tagged it with the underside of her Charger the other day I figured it was time to go. This is my first root removed with my new root grapple... bigger than I thought when I first started!