Tires Tire bead broke free

[MrWhipple]

Had low air pressure in a front tire today and after running the loader for a while notice the tire was flat and the bead had come loose, but was still on the rim. Tried reinflating, but air was leaking out the bead, attempted to use a small ratchet strap to get it closer but still no joy.

Ideas, beyond heavier strap and pulling the valve stem so I can get air in faster?

Jim
5205

 

[beenthere]

:welcome:
I'd remove the wheel and let the tire regain its shape in a warm place (no location given).
Then work one side away from the stem onto the rim, and carefully raise the stem side close to rim.
Then, having removed the valve stem core. blast it with air as you suggest.

Or if that doesn't work, drop it by a tire shop for a bigger blast of air.

Some people put in some lighter fluid and touch that off with a match (at a distance). Works quick but the tire can also become a projectile bouncing around the shop if too much propellant is used too. Not a method I'd try without some serious planning and protection.

 

[Todd NE WY]

Best is to just take it to a tire shop. You can probably take it to them and have it back on in less time and definitely less frustration than if you keep working at it. I had the same thing happen almost exactly a year ago. I was backing a large gooseneck trailer in, I have a ball on top of the bucket, and turned to short, popped the tire right off.

 

[greasemonkeyok]

You may have chewed the bead area of the tire so that it cant hold air without some help. If so, a heavy dose of tire sealant and bouncing the tire on the ground a bit while filling with air may work. It did for me, kinda like fixing a flat on the bead.

Tire shop may tell you it can't be fixed, but a gallon of Berrymans is cheaper than a new tire.

 

[Mace Canute]

:welcome:
I'd remove the wheel and let the tire regain its shape in a warm place (no location given).
Then work one side away from the stem onto the rim, and carefully raise the stem side close to rim.
Then, having removed the valve stem core. blast it with air as you suggest.

Or if that doesn't work, drop it by a tire shop for a bigger blast of air.

Some people put in some lighter fluid and touch that off with a match (at a distance). Works quick but the tire can also become a projectile bouncing around the shop if too much propellant is used too. Not a method I'd try without some serious planning and protection.

There is considerable restriction to air flow in the air chuck also. I've had some tires where I use a gutted air chuck and it passed just enough air than what was leaking out past the almost seated bead to actually get the bead to seat. Also, connecting the air hose directly to the compressor tank will bypass the regulator which is often restrictive, especially the cheaper ones. It might seem like a moot point but the difference is significant and will often be the difference between getting a tire bead to seat or not.

 

[pickeringchris]

A tip that a mechanic just showed me when I couldn't get my bead to seat. He took the air chuck off and jammed the quick disconnect fitting onto the valve stem. Allowing way more flow than the air chuck. It actually worked.

 

[Sutol]

Take off the wheel and lean it against the wall, then with a bit of luck you can press against the centre which will close the two beads together on one rim of the wheel and you should be able to get some pressure in and then the tyre will pop open and seal itself against the other rim

 

[Barry 1]

Put a tube in it.

 

[Sutol]

Put a tube in it.

Why didn't I think of that:thumbsup:

 

[Glen Watkins]

Don't put a tube in it!

 

[MrWhipple]

Ok went back to the tractor today, about 10'F warmer, much less pissed off......

Note tractor lives with wife's horse about 5 miles from home.

Had tools with me....extra ratchet straps, rattle gun and sockets, jack stand, ether.............

So I use the bucket to get it up in the air, stand under tire so i don't need to worry about hydraulic leakage, hit the back side of tire a few times with the big sledge, ratchet strap it, hit it again, air.........ooh looks like bead is moving outboard........
inch by inch......
step by step......

so short story long, got 25psi in there pulled off the air chuck and the **** schreader valve is leaking....chuck back on and it seals.......


Thanks for the advice..............

Jim

 

[beenthere]

Good to hear you are back in business.

 

[Johnp33]

To put a tube in it you have to be sure the tire is clean inside, and it is cheaper to take it to a tire shop. To reshape a tire when it is cold and set is something a tire shop can do with a special tool they fill with air and it blows the air into the tire threw the open section of the bead. It looks like an air tank with a flattened shoveled end.
To fill a tire with the bead broken if it is clean and you can lube it with soapy water or better yet tire lube, I take out the tire valve and use an air nozzle to blow in the stem. I also have a valve stem quick connect that works especially well.

 

[KennedyDiesel]

Keep a close eye on your steer tires inflation pressure. Running low is a good way to dent a rim and destroy the cords in the sidewall. I learned this the hard way. Booted and tubed it lasted another 3 or so years for me. If the tire comes off in clean conditions then go ahead and pop back on, but it's very easy to get grit in the bead and have a perpetual slow leaker. For this reason I let my local tire shop take care of mine.

 

[Tractor Pilot]

My next door neighbor had the exact same situation happen to him two weeks ago - he had low pressure in the front tires and the left, front tire came off the bead as he was snow blowing his driveway. Valve stem broke off too. He took it to the tire shop and had them fix it. He was back in business a couple of hours later.

 

[rsewill]

Had low air pressure in a front tire today

Of course, you may still have a leaky tire necessitating a future trip to the tire shop.