Tier 4 strategy for the 5220R?

[Mr Bitz]

There again dealer should have stepped up to the plate And should have swapped out from a stocked tractor to keep you going. I've done it to keep customers happy. I've never had any issues whatsoever from Branson warranty they are great in covering stuff. It's all about the dealer. Does your dealer offer other products?

 

[DavesTractor]

A good dealer will make a big difference in the speed of a repair. Like Mr Bitz mentioned, customer satisfaction is what sells tractors and if a dealer needs to grab a part out of new inventory to make a quick repair, he does it. This is especially true of an easily bolted on/off part. Not so much for a gear in a transmission obviously.

Tombstone is at about 4500 feet. I don't know why, but it seems like the DPF's clog faster at high elevations on non-turbo models. I have not had this explained to me. I know your air is less dense, and a turbo equalizes that and can keep EGT's higher. One thing that helps is to run the tractor at or near PTO rpm speeds and do enough work with it to get the exhaust hot. I hear you on the idea of replacing it with a normal muffler, but as dealers we can't even give a "wink and a nod" to that.

 

[Texasmark]

Rejuvenating an old thread but since I just bought a new (built within the last 3 months) 2400 with the Cummins Kukje licensed A1100N2 swirl chamber engine with "tier 4" marked on the engine ID tag, I am interested in what I have gotten myself into. I got the Operator's manual with it and I bought the Service Manual, but they also publish an Engine Manual and a Parts Manual. I think I'll have a look at the Service Manual and see if there's any coverage of such an emission system and any special maintenance needs.....my service interval chart probably has a function and hour line posted if anything applies.

 

[buickanddeere]

Of course the under 56Kw tractor has simple and minimal Tier IV emissions equipment . Unlike higher HP engines. The small diesel is allowed 0.03 particulate instead of 0.02, that would be 50% more. No regulations on NOx. No regulations on HC.
The tractor is no engineering marvel that is "clean" without all the emissions equipment.


Table 1 of §1039.101—Tier 4 Exhaust Emission Standards After the 2014 Model Year, g/kW-hr1

Maximum engine power Application PM NOX NMHC NOX + NMHC CO
kW <19 All 20.40 7.5 36.6
19 ≤kW <56 All 0.03 4.7 45.0
56 ≤kW <130 All 0.02 0.40 0.19 5.0
130 ≤kW ≤560 All 0.02 0.40 0.19 3.5
Generator sets 0.03 0.67 0.19 3.5
kW >560 All except generator sets 0.04 3.5 0.19 3.5

 

[Texasmark]

I noticed the ID plate on the side of Kukje (Cummins licensed) A1100N2 engine rated as a Tier 4 in the Branson 2400 (24 hp) I just purchased. All I found was a PCV valve on top of the valve cover that's not on my '07 Cummins B 3.3NA. Didn't see anything else out of the ordinary.

 

[Mr Bitz]

No DPF on the 2400 models. From my understanding anything under 30hp does not need to meet the tier 4 criteria.. Although it is still considered tier 4.

 

[PapeCAT]

reviving an old thread yet again but to respond to the questions on DPF clogging. For anyone who has operated an early mechanical diesel motor at various altitudes, you can see that the vehicle may not make any smoke at all at sea level but at higher altitudes the smoke / particulate matter level increases greatly! Especially during high load / low boost launches. This is due to the air being less dense, less O2 vs. sea level, and same amount of fuel getting pushed from the injectors. Now, applying this with a DPF, you can see that the DPF will get clogged much quicker due to much higher rate of particulate matter (black smoke) at higher elevations. All I can say is, if you're at higher altitudes, get the 5220 turbo and try to not rev it from idle under load. Might make more sense to opt for a hydrostat unit so you can keep the RPMs up and turbo spooled at all times rather than revving it up and down, blowing smoke at each acceleration forward and rearward during loader work, etc.

 

[DavesTractor]

reviving an old thread yet again but to respond to the questions on DPF clogging. For anyone who has operated an early mechanical diesel motor at various altitudes, you can see that the vehicle may not make any smoke at all at sea level but at higher altitudes the smoke / particulate matter level increases greatly! Especially during high load / low boost launches. This is due to the air being less dense, less O2 vs. sea level, and same amount of fuel getting pushed from the injectors. Now, applying this with a DPF, you can see that the DPF will get clogged much quicker due to much higher rate of particulate matter (black smoke) at higher elevations. All I can say is, if you're at higher altitudes, get the 5220 turbo and try to not rev it from idle under load. Might make more sense to opt for a hydrostat unit so you can keep the RPMs up and turbo spooled at all times rather than revving it up and down, blowing smoke at each acceleration forward and rearward during loader work, etc.

Some good words there. Turbo is the way to go at altitude for many reasons, power has always been the big deal. But you are correct that a turbo helps with the DPF load as well. The 5220 is a great high altitude choice, as is the turbo'd 4020R and also the 4015R. All three have turbos. And I agree as well about keeping the rpms up. They are designed to run at or near PTO speeds, so 2000-2500 rpm all day long is a good way to go.

 

[PapeCAT]

Dave hi: I haven't personally used a shuttle shift Branson 15 or 20 series (but would like to try some day) but from the sounds of it , operating them at high RPM is no issue so a hydrostat unit isn't required like I mentioned in the earlier post.

 

[DavesTractor]

Dave hi: I haven't personally used a shuttle shift Branson 15 or 20 series (but would like to try some day) but from the sounds of it , operating them at high RPM is no issue so a hydrostat unit isn't required like I mentioned in the earlier post.

I agree, but your idea has merit, since most folks will run an HST at higher rpms and shuttles at lower rpms. People with shuttles just need to drop a gear or two and run the engines up a bit in the range.