Three point hitch question

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tholder85

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I have a 6500 4wd and I am trying to get my hay fork on my three point lift to work right. The problem is when I get the forks adjusted so they are level on the ground to get under the hay, when I raise the lift it will almost dump the roll of hay off the forks. I have adjusted on everything I know to adjust on and it still happens. I have never had a problem like this on a tractor before. I hope y'all can understand what I am saying. On my ford 4000 the forks would be inclined when you raised the lift, so it was impossible for the hay to slide off. This is about to drive me crazy! Can someone familiar with this mahindra please help?!?!?!?
 
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I have a 6500 4wd and I am trying to get my hay fork on my three point lift to work right. The problem is when I get the forks adjusted so they are level on the ground to get under the hay, when I raise the lift it will almost dump the roll of hay off the forks. I have adjusted on everything I know to adjust on and it still happens. I have never had a problem like this on a tractor before. I hope y'all can understand what I am saying. On my ford 4000 the forks would be inclined when you raised the lift, so it was impossible for the hay to slide off. This is about to drive me crazy! Can someone familiar with this mahindra please help?!?!?!?


On your top link, on your tractor end, there should be a few holes to put the top link in, try putting the top link in the bottom hole, this might help.:confused:
 
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And if there are a few holes on your forks, try putting the top link in the top hole.
 
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I have a 6500 4wd and I am trying to get my hay fork on my three point lift to work right. The problem is when I get the forks adjusted so they are level on the ground to get under the hay, when I raise the lift it will almost dump the roll of hay off the forks. I have adjusted on everything I know to adjust on and it still happens. I have never had a problem like this on a tractor before. I hope y'all can understand what I am saying. On my ford 4000 the forks would be inclined when you raised the lift, so it was impossible for the hay to slide off. This is about to drive me crazy! Can someone familiar with this mahindra please help?!?!?!?

THAT is downright ~W~E~I~R~D~ (-:
3pt is SUPPOSED TO tip more towards the tractor as the implement is raised.
You MIGHT have some alternate holes in the top link bracket (tractor end of top link) that are used differently for draft control - using a lower one might change the geometry to correct your problem, though I doubt that any of them would be high enough to cause the problem you described.
Are you SURE nothing is broken ?
 
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Top link needs to be on same horizontal plane as the lift arms. If angle downward towards attachment when lift arms are level it will push top attachment outward when lift arms come up and in closer to tractor.
 
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I have tried the different holes for the top link, in both the tractor and my hay fork. Still the same problem! This is absolutely about to drive me slap looney, which isn't far! It's almost like the lift arms aren't long enough. I don't know, but something isn't right. I love everything else about my tractor, but if I can't move hay with the rear lift it is useless to me!!!!
 
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A picture would help a lot.

Bruce
 
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I have tried the different holes for the top link, in both the tractor and my hay fork. Still the same problem! This is absolutely about to drive me slap looney, which isn't far! It's almost like the lift arms aren't long enough. I don't know, but something isn't right. I love everything else about my tractor, but if I can't move hay with the rear lift it is useless to me!!!!

Well, if you have rear remotes, I wouldn't be too worried, since a hydraulic top link can fix many ills. If you post pics, if it can be fixed, some of these guys will sure tell you how to fix it.
 
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Is the hay fork homemade or is it store bought????
 
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What other implements do you have ?
Do they ALL fail to lift their rear higher than their front when raised ?

Disc harrow, plough, bush hog, whateverelse ?
 
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Check your draft control lever, I believe it should be all the way forward. I don't know if that is your problem, but won't hurt to check.
 
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The fork is a factory fork, not homemade. I have not tried moving my draft control lever. Guess I will give that a try tomorrow. I think mine is all the way back now. I will try to take some pics tomorrow so everyone can see what is happening. Thanks for the help, everyone! These forums are the best tool a person can have in their box!
 
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Draft control needs to be all the way forward or down towards the front of the tractor if its not already down, I sometimes hit or move mind when using the 3-point control.
 
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I have tried the different holes for the top link, in both the tractor and my hay fork. Still the same problem! This is absolutely about to drive me slap looney, which isn't far! It's almost like the lift arms aren't long enough. I don't know, but something isn't right. I love everything else about my tractor, but if I can't move hay with the rear lift it is useless to me!!!!

You might have the wrong lower arms installed. Take a few photos and post them so someone with a 6500 can compare. You might call your dealer and ask the length, hole to hole, of the lower arms for a 6500. Someone here might know the length also. Are the lower arm adjustments all the way up or down?
hugs, Brandi
 
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Draft control needs to be all the way forward or down towards the front of the tractor if its not already down, I sometimes hit or move mind when using the 3-point control.
It affects lift only tho. No effect on pitch. Pictures should be interesting. Even short lift arms should do ~ ok with a correspondingly short toplink.
larry
 
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It affects lift only tho. No effect on pitch. Pictures should be interesting. Even short lift arms should do ~ ok with a correspondingly short toplink.
larry


Thats what I thought, wasnt sure, sometimes I move mind by using the 3-point level, it havent gave me any trouble so far by doing this.
I have a 5500 4x4, when I use my 3-point what ever level I have when it is on the ground, its about the same when its lifted all the way up, not much differnts at all.
 
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My thinking is that there is something wrong with the draft control allowing the top link to pull out farther than it is supposed to. :confused: And while the draft control should not be a problem, I believe that there can be a problem having the lever pulled back all the way when not in use. Read the owners manual, that ends up causing internal problems over time.
 
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My thinking is that there is something wrong with the draft control allowing the top link to pull out farther than it is supposed to. :confused: And while the draft control should not be a problem, I believe that there can be a problem having the lever pulled back all the way when not in use. Read the owners manual, that ends up causing internal problems over time.
I see what you mean, but travel of the draft control mechanism is ... like 0+ . The amt to account for his problem would have to be highly noticeable and should grab attention by immediate "give" as tension was applied to the link.
larry
 
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OK. Got the tractor on level ground this morning and checked everything. I have come to the conclusion that it is, more or less, maintaining the same angle as it goes up and I guess this is how it should be working, so maybe there isn't anything wrong with the tractor after all. However, this still creates a problem because I have the fork adjusted with a slight downward angle in order to get under the roll of hay, so when the bale is lifted it maintains the slight rearward angle with a little added due to bale weight. This can cause you to loose the roll of hay on bumpy or unlevel ground. Maybe this is the way it is supposed to be, I don't know. I am just not smart enough to figure the geometry of this situation and know what needs to be done in order to make the forks tilt forward as the lift is raised. The same reason I can't figure out why my old Ford 4000 never did this. Do I need to modify my fork so that I can get an upward tilt when raised or is there something else that needs to be done?
 
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OK. Got the tractor on level ground this morning and checked everything. I have come to the conclusion that it is, more or less, maintaining the same angle as it goes up and I guess this is how it should be working, so maybe there isn't anything wrong with the tractor after all.
This is quite unusual and it must have something to do with the forks -- vertical spacing between upper and lower hitch points. It might be made that way on purpose with the intent that a hyd toplink be used. Do your other implements do this? Please post pictures of the tractor with forks on. Probably could do a mod on forks to give a higher top hole to get them to tip tractorward some as they rise.
larry
 
 
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