Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start

   / Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start #1  

lzicc

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Kubota B2650
I have a Thomas T133s Skid. Since it got cold out, it is hard to start. On this model, you turn the key to the left, you hear a click and the glow plug light turns on. After 4 or 10 seconds, the light goes out and you turn the key to start it. The light no longer turns on and there is no click noise. I need to look into the issue, but would this indicate a bad relay? The relay is what the clicking noise would be. I'm not real sure where the relay is located on the skid steer. I'm not sure what makes the glow plug light go on, but it doesn't go on at all. Just trying to limit down what I need to look for.
 
   / Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start #2  
Can u cycle it a few times?? Turn it to the left more than once..
If its cold.. it needs more heat..
 
   / Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start #3  
I have a Thomas T133s Skid. Since it got cold out, it is hard to start. On this model, you turn the key to the left, you hear a click and the glow plug light turns on. After 4 or 10 seconds, the light goes out and you turn the key to start it. The light no longer turns on and there is no click noise. I need to look into the issue, but would this indicate a bad relay? The relay is what the clicking noise would be. I'm not real sure where the relay is located on the skid steer. I'm not sure what makes the glow plug light go on, but it doesn't go on at all. Just trying to limit down what I need to look for.

https://www.thomasloaders.com/uploa... REPAIR MANUAL (S.N. LE002183 - LE006074).pdf section 5
 
   / Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start #4  
Glow plug circuits are usualy prety simple. A few minutes with a diagram and test light and i bet you can have it figured out.
 
   / Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start #5  
I have a Thomas T133s Skid. Since it got cold out, it is hard to start. On this model, you turn the key to the left, you hear a click and the glow plug light turns on. After 4 or 10 seconds, the light goes out and you turn the key to start it. The light no longer turns on and there is no click noise. I need to look into the issue, but would this indicate a bad relay? The relay is what the clicking noise would be. I'm not real sure where the relay is located on the skid steer. I'm not sure what makes the glow plug light go on, but it doesn't go on at all. Just trying to limit down what I need to look for.

Check to make sure the bulb is not burnt out. Sometimes the bulb is part of the glowplug circut. Had this problem on my international 364.
 
   / Thomas Skid Steer Hard Cold Start #6  
WHY does anyone try to diagnose a problem with out a manual.??
A manual will SHOW YOU exactly WHERE the GP RELAY IS..
I amazes me.. people own a 30K + $ piece of equipment & are to cheap to change their fuel filters & buy a shop manual.!!
 
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I have the parts and repair manual for it and it just gives you the schematics and no actual picture. I've tried follow what I could, but couldn't make sense of it. Plus everything is so stuffed in the engine compartment.

I did find the issue though. It's the ignition switch. When I turn the key counterclockwise and hit a certain point, the GP light comes on and everything works. There must corrosion inside the ignition switch. It works now, but I am going to have to find a new one. It's hard to get find parts for this SS.
 

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