thistle: mow or spray

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skywaterbanjo

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I was planning on buying a 5' rotary mower to take care of thistle in my vacant lot of about 3 acres. My tractor sales guy says I should think about a sprayer instead. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I'm looking for some input.

Thanks
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #2  
I was planning on buying a 5' rotary mower to take care of thistle in my vacant lot of about 3 acres. My tractor sales guy says I should think about a sprayer instead. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I'm looking for some input.

Thanks

What type of thistle is this? I need to know the botanical name, not a common name. If it is Canada Thistle you may cut at the recommended time, - but never under any circumstances rototill, disc, or plow, Canada Thistle.
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #3  
I don't have much of an answer for you, but I am interested in hearing the collective wisdom...

I have an old farm that has been neglected for many years, and I am now starting to get it back into shape. I also have a 5' bush hog and have started to mow my thistles. I'm hoping to choke them out with grasses. It seems to me I have heard that out competing them is the only way.

Bull thistle is a biennial, so I'm hoping that if I mow it seriously for a few years that will die out. Unfortunately, the Canada thistle is perennial (isn't it?) and much harder to kill off. I have both types...

Could I also tag on Goldenrod to this thread? I have lots of that and am hoping that mowing a few times each summer will knock that back. Is there a better way?

Thanks,
 
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What type of thistle is this? I need to know the botanical name, not a common name. If it is Canada Thistle you may cut at the recommended time, - but never under any circumstances rototill, disc, or plow, Canada Thistle.

Canadian thistle is the worst one to mow.

Just spray them and get it over with.
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #5  
Here ya go ---

Canada thistle is an aggressive perennial weed that reproduces from vegetative buds in the root system and from seed. Root systems can extend 15 feet deep or more. New plants can develop from root pieces as small as .025 inch long by .0125 inch in diameter. Individual plants can produce up to 1500 seeds per flowering shoot. Seeds can remain viable in the soil up to 20 years. These facts dictate that management efforts must be directed towards long-term planning.

The key for effective long-term control is to implement a management plan that consistently prevents the formation and dispersal of seed and to stress the plant and force it to use stored root nutrients.

Therefore, a one-time treatment for Canada thistle will not be effective. Management and control effects must be planned for several consecutive growing seasons in order to prevent new seed formation/dispersal and at the same time deplete the nutrient reserves that have built up in the root system.

Control measures that have been found to be effective for the management of Canada thistle on small acreage properties are:
Mowing: The most effective mowing technique is to mow the infestation at 25 to 30 days intervals, 4 to 5 times per season, throughout the entire growing season over several (4-5) years. The purpose of the intensive mowing is to stimulate Canada thistle shoot growth thereby depleting the plants root reserve. Mowing alone will not eradicate an infestation but can reduce infestation density by 50%.

Due to Canada thistles extensive root reserves a one-time mowing of the plants during the growing season is not an effective control technique. Similarly, a one-time hand pulling of Canada thistle during the growing season is also not an effective control technique. A one-time mowing or hand pulling will stimulate plant growth and increase infestation size and density.

Herbicide treatment: There are several herbicides available locally that are very effective for controlling Canada thistle within pasture and rangeland grasses. Curtail, Redeem, Milestone, Forefront and WeedMaster are selective, general use herbicides, available over-the-counter, with a short soil residual that controls many broadleaf plants including Canada thistle. Applied at labeled rates they will not damage grasses. Do not apply to trees, shrubs, flowers, or garden areas. The herbicides are concentrates that are mixed with water and then sprayed onto the target plant. Herbicide uptake is through the plant foliage. Read and follow all label directions. Wear the proper protective gear (rubber gloves, long pants, long sleeve shirt, rubber boots, and eye wear) when spraying.

Timing of application is dependent upon the stage of plant growth. The best time to treat Canada thistle is after the plant is fully emerged (meaning lots of foliage available for herbicide uptake) is actively growing, and prior to bud stage.

Best of luck. (It's a nasty, tough bugger.)

AKfish
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #6  
what about hawthorn?how do I get rid of them? real hard on tires.I have lots.The bears love them
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #7  
I use Crossbow as I have them in my CRP land which I cannot mow; they are a bear to control.
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #8  
I just have a small spread (6 acres in pasture or lawn), but I have been fighting thistles for 4 years, and I am starting to get the upper hand. Every spring I fill up my sprayer, and wander my land spraying every thistle I can find. I repeat this 4-5 times during the summer.

My land is far from Thistle free, but they are on the retreat, and I have no more of them going to seed.

I do not anticipate I will ever be free of them as seeds blow in from other places, but I am glad to feel I have the upper hand
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #9  
For Canada Thistle I had pretty good luck with spraying Redeem at regular intervals last year. I managed to keep it down to where it never flowered. Interested to see how it comes back this year.
 
   / thistle: mow or spray #10  
Combination mowing and spraying works best. If you spray only you have to depend on perfect timing. Fall is best as that is when the plant is taking in nutrients to get through the winter and will draw the weed killer you use right down to the deepest roots. If you mow only (been there, done that) the thistles get smart and start budding out close to the ground. It is a never ending battle but as some have said, you do start to win after about 4 years.
 

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