Buying Advice Think its officialy dead

[jacobsdaddy06]

This happened this afternoon to my new idea 256 sickle mower, doubt there's a replacement part for this anymore, anybody got any suggestions? This is the part coming off the "wobble" drive attaches to the cutter bar.. Thanks

 

[k0ua]

looks like it could be welded up to me..

James K0UA

 

[lilranch2001]

It is green......

Lets see if the stories about Deere is actually true, and they stock all those old parts

 

[jacobsdaddy06]

Problem is To be able to weld it, parts of it are missing, broke off in the field, couldn't find any of it, being "green" I thought I would be ok buying it, but I can't even find a new cutter bar

 

[k0ua]

Problem is To be able to weld it, parts of it are missing, broke off in the field, couldn't find any of it, being "green" I thought I would be ok buying it, but I can't even find a new cutter bar

That doesn matter, just fab up some new pieces.. Unless I cannot see something it looks like some straight pieces are missing.. Maybe a dollars worth of steel if you have no junk pile. Are there any complex shapes missing we could not cut out with a bandsaw?... Where are you? I see NW Ar.. I am in Branson


James K0UA

 

[tow653]

It is green......

Lets see if the stories about Deere is actually true, and they stock all those old parts

OP says it's New Idea,not Deere.

 

[k0ua]

Is It Cast Iron?.. I see something that made me think it was cast.. We might be in trouble.. or have to do a re engineer job.
I just cant make out all of the problem from the photo's for sure..

James K0UA

 

[jacobsdaddy06]

Yes cast iron here's a pic from my parts manual
it's part 26

 

[moored4]

Do you know what caused it to break in the first place?
After looking at the parts list it looks like it is just a tube that 2 cone bearings fit in with arms welded on. Get a machinist to make the tube if it is damaged. Make the 2 arms and weld it up. I really do not see a problem here that not fixable. People that restore old stuff do this all the time. It will take some time and a little work but doable.

 

[boggen]

that third picture to me says it all. as in, someone has already botched it up some time in the past. and cut and welded in some flat bar. from looks just the end tab, were the bolt goes through.

i would say cut and weld it backup.

i think agco parts manual website, or maybe agcobooks website?? covers some of the "new idea" old equipment. it covered a rotatory cutter i have. you might try a local tractor repair place, to see if they can look up model number and get parts, or you may need to call a few salvage yards.

 

[High Compression]

I would just fab a new part. Use the old one as a template. It doesn't have to look the same, just work the same. If you don't have the tools/ability, surely there is someone close that does. Good luck. :thumbsup:

 

[rScotty]

Yes cast iron here's a pic from my parts manual
it's part 26

Now that sure is an interesting picture.
Nice that you have the parts manual. Yes, I was going to say fab or weld.....which is easy enough if you are one of those types of guys with a home machine & welding shop.

And you still can, of course. But it's just a complicated enough part - and looks to be designed to be somewhat flexible - to make me think how nice it would be to have a new one.

I sure do like those old sickle bar mowers. Bottom line is if it were mine I'd try hunting up a new part.

No...I don't have the slightest idea where to find that piece, but the antique vehicle restorers find old parts for nearly everything all the time. That makes me think there's bound to be both a part around somewhere and a way to find it.

Does anyone know where to start?
rScotty

 

[tonyoz]

If you can't weld just make one out of a peice of hardwood. That was all they used years ago and it worked.
Ain't nothing like a bit of enginuity to get yer job done

 

[charleyfarmall]

A local machine shop could easily build you a new one that would do better than the cast part.

It does look like it was repaired in the past as well, so you could repair it again to get some more life out of it.

 

[scrappy isb67]

It looks to me the bracket broke becuase the guide plates on either side of the sickle bar are shot and letting the sickle bar deflect sideways instead of moving parallel to the bar. the 2 plate above/below the sickle bar that are held on with it looks to be new bolts in the picture are supposed to be straight and parallel of each other, not football shaped between them.

 

[brcisna]

Jacobsdaddy06,
It appaears the reason that piece wound up breaking is the two 'straight beams' got bent(most likely from getting a rock in the sickle),,and started beating themselves up.
All you need to do is two things to make a nice solid repair.
You will simply need a stick welder,,AKA,buzzbox.And some Lincoln Ferroweld welding sticks.(About $8 per one lb box.) 1 box will probably do this job for you.

1) Measure what the length SHOULD be of each of the straight beams.Allow an extra 1" to overlap your new cut beames to the existing broken beam part.Decide were you want to cut each of your two beams(shown),,to the same length
2) Cut you two pieces of steel stock,,slightly heavier than what the current beams are.
3) drill the holes for the bolt to go through at the reciprocating end of your newly cut beames.
4) GO to any tractor supply place that sells Lincoln brand rods and get the "Ferroweld" It will be on the label as used for 'dirty welded cast ioin",,FYI
5) Cut off the existing/broken beames in the same spot.
6) Set you buzzbox welder to 100 amps
7) Overlap your new beames to the exisint beams and simply c-clamp each
8) Go to town welding the new beames to the exisng/clamped beam.
9) Done


Take Care,
BC