The Resting Place.

[MossRoad]

Fun times.! That reminds me of Bill Dance vs Tom Knapp.

I was good, but not THAT good!

I've seen a lot of Tom Knapp videos. Very impressive.

 

[MossRoad]

I'd say it was still luck. No disrespect to your shooting skills, but bb guns and their ammo are notoriously inconsistent. The ones you use for a shooting team are better than some random Daisy.

I had a mentor that used to say something like once is luck, twice is luck, 9 out of 10 is skill, but 99 out of 100 is luck. I personally think that if you can consistently and repetitively do something within a certain tolerance, it's skill.

With that said, at that distance I mentioned, BB guns are pretty accurate. Remember, it was only 20-30 feet. I sincerely believe that just about anyone can shoot a gun to its accuracy, given some instruction.

I have had, for the past 20-30 years, a cheap Daisy Powerline 880 BB/Pellet gun. It's very accurate at a distance that's similar to my living room. I used to shoot into a trap in the basement. Once you put 5-6 shots through a paper target, you can't see where the rest of them place because they all got through the same hole. It can plug a woodchuck in the butt with a BB at 100 yards on just a few pumps to make em run.

As for the rifle I used when I was on the team, it's just an inexpensive Remington model 580. I was small and could not handle the heft of a "real" target rifle, nor could we afford something like an Anschutz. We had about double the purchase price of the rifle in sights and trigger work. For the life of me, I can't see how people cannot hit the 10 ring at 50'. It comes down to inconsistent ammo or lapse in self discipline. Almost any .22 rifle will shoot a .66 wide group at 50' with good ammo and self discipline.

 

[MossRoad]

Wow and with an audience to boot!

Wonder what kind of BB gun?

I was in a resteraunt and the owner was hosting the local Chamber of Commerce.

He came in and took off his cap and tossed clear across the room and perfect to the coat rack… quite a surprise…

Waitress said he just about always makes it…

I wish I could remember what it was. I'm thinking a Crosman 760 powermaster, because it had a short little pump handle. This would have been mid 70's.

I've only made the hat toss once or twice that I can recall. Usually I miss and it then it tumbles down the basement stairs.

 

[MossRoad]

I saw a air rifle competition in Germany and it would be easy to think the rifles a match for a conventional small caliber.

Oh yeah. Air guns are serious business.

 

[drssg]

I had a mentor that used to say something like once is luck, twice is luck, 9 out of 10 is skill, but 99 out of 100 is luck. I personally think that if you can consistently and repetitively do something within a certain tolerance, it's skill.

With that said, at that distance I mentioned, BB guns are pretty accurate. Remember, it was only 20-30 feet. I sincerely believe that just about anyone can shoot a gun to its accuracy, given some instruction.

I have had, for the past 20-30 years, a cheap Daisy Powerline 880 BB/Pellet gun. It's very accurate at a distance that's similar to my living room. I used to shoot into a trap in the basement. Once you put 5-6 shots through a paper target, you can't see where the rest of them place because they all got through the same hole. It can plug a woodchuck in the butt with a BB at 100 yards on just a few pumps to make em run.

As for the rifle I used when I was on the team, it's just an inexpensive Remington model 580. I was small and could not handle the heft of a "real" target rifle, nor could we afford something like an Anschutz. We had about double the purchase price of the rifle in sights and trigger work. For the life of me, I can't see how people cannot hit the 10 ring at 50'. It comes down to inconsistent ammo or lapse in self discipline. Almost any .22 rifle will shoot a .66 wide group at 50' with good ammo and self discipline.

I'm jealous. My BB guns have always been the Daisy Red Rider variety. I sometimes use it to convince the geese to leave my pond. The most difficult part of the shot is to estimate how far above the target I need to aim. On rare occasions, I'll hit the dang thing, and it STILL won't leave!

 

[MossRoad]

I'm jealous. My BB guns have always been the Daisy Red Rider variety. I sometimes use it to convince the geese to leave my pond. The most difficult part of the shot is to estimate how far above the target I need to aim. On rare occasions, I'll hit the dang thing, and it STILL won't leave!

I once hit a groundhog in the butt two doors down on just two pumps. It looked around and kept munching on their garden. So I pumped it up a few more and hit it again. That time it popped up about a foot off the ground and took off.

 

[MossRoad]

I was good, but not THAT good!

I've seen a lot of Tom Knapp videos. Very impressive.

Here's a Tom Knapp video I've watched many times. RIP.

 

[MossRoad]

I'm jealous. My BB guns have always been the Daisy Red Rider variety. I sometimes use it to convince the geese to leave my pond. The most difficult part of the shot is to estimate how far above the target I need to aim. On rare occasions, I'll hit the dang thing, and it STILL won't leave!

I used my dad's Marksman Repeater spring pistol when I was a kid. I don't know why they called it a repeater, because you had to load it every shot.

I don't think it could shoot through a pop can at the time.

"Many wonderful classic replicas are now out of production while others seem to go on and on despite not being terribly impressive. The Marksman Repeater has been in production for almost sixty years now in one form or another. Which might lead you to suppose that it must be pretty good. But you’d be wrong."

Classic replica air pistol review: The Marksman Repeater

Many wonderful classic replicas are now out of production while others seem to go on and on despite not being terribly impressive. The Marksman Repeater has been in production for almost sixty year…

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[rontaki]

I think I mentioned when I was a young teen, we were fishing at the local lake, and an older kid cast over a hanging log about 20-30 feet away and snagged the hook. Hanging from the hook about 10" down was a BB spit-shot sinker, then his bobber, then the line back to the reel. He wasn't getting it back and was about to snap it off when I asked him if I could see his BB gun, which he never let me touch. I said "I'll shoot the BB and at least you'll get your bobber back. He laughed at me and so did the other kids with us like "Yeah, right!"

I convinced him to let me try. He finally relented. I pumped it up, took aim while resting on a log, fired, and POP! I hit that sinker! Not only that, but the force knocked the hook off the log, the whole hook, line and sinker fell to the water. Everyone was stunned. I handed him back his BB gun. He reeled in the line and there was a dent in the split-shot that everyone but me looked at in amazement.

They all said it was luck. I knew it was skill. I'd been on a rifle team for a year. On a 50 foot indoor range the 10 ring is .22 caliber. I frequently shot 50 point targets. To me, it was no big deal, but from then on, I was legend in the neighborhood.

And that was the best shot I ever made

...hook, line and sinker... Hi-larious!

 

[daugen]

I'm jealous. My BB guns have always been the Daisy Red Rider variety. I sometimes use it to convince the geese to leave my pond. The most difficult part of the shot is to estimate how far above the target I need to aim. On rare occasions, I'll hit the dang thing, and it STILL won't leave!

same here with squirrels with my adult Red Rider. I didn't want to kill the things, but sure wanted to motivate them.
sometimes they will turn around and shake their tail at me.
that's when I wish I had an air rifle.........