THAT'S THE BEAR

   / THAT'S THE BEAR #21  
3RRL said:
Although we were armed, we did not want to hurt him under any circumstances short of an actual attack. I thought we were lucky and smart to give him the opportunity to get out of there, avoiding a confrontation. Not only that, we were out of harms way as well.

Well Rob, I'll have to admit it, I would have shot him dead as soon as the spotlight hit him in that tree. It's not a deer or a racoon, this is something that can eat you. This is certainly a personal decision and I am interested in why you feel so strongly about keeping him around. No right or wrong answer.
 
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Highbeam said:
Well Rob, I'll have to admit it, I would have shot him dead as soon as the spotlight hit him in that tree. It's not a deer or a racoon, this is something that can eat you. This is certainly a personal decision and I am interested in why you feel so strongly about keeping him around. No right or wrong answer.
Well, I know the answer(s) to that will take this thread on a twist. It is indeed a personal choice...up to a point.
What do I mean by that?

You know I am a hunter and conservationist at the same time. I don't believe I should shoot everything out there just because it might turn into a bad situation for me or even just because there is a hunting season for it...excepting rattlesnakes of course. Now if that encounter becomes routine or turns into a dangerous situation, that's different. On the other hand, I am not against taking the bear out either, depending on the situation. Remember that I was fully prepared to do that in the event of aggression. As a matter of fact, a bearskin rug in the new cabin would be awesome.

However, at this point, I don't really want to take the bear for a number of reasons.

I believe there is still some hope that the bear and us can live in the same area, assuming both of us adhere to the rules. That is, we make a point to stay out of it's way and he does the same, avoiding us. There is plenty of open space for the bear to live in and around our property. A large part of our property is still wilderness. It is pretty neat to be able to see wild animals around there. I'm sure you may have read when I posted about the resident Mountain Lion on the property and the other bear visits to our camp. I guess what I'm trying to say is, I understand that is going to happen and I accept it.

So even though a large part of me wants to take him, there is also a part of me that wants him to survive and be viewed like other wildlife. I do realize this may not be the case depending on what happens, but that is how I feel about it.

Another reason is the DFG will make a big stink about it ...investigating the shooting to determine if it was truly necessary. In California, who knows how that will come out? I don't want to risk that either. The court system here is as dangerous if not more than the bear itself. That leaves the three s's. In either case, I would not get that bear rug...legally, that is.

You might be asking yourself why I would subject myself and my family to a possible dangerous situation? Well, that happens all the time the minute you decide to go out in nature...whether camping or hunting or even sight seeing. You just have to be prepared for the worst, and hope for the best... and then make that personal decision.
 
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lol ... Having said all that, I am on my way to get a Bear tag for this area. Bear season in my area starts the same day as Deer season, the 4th Saturday in September this year.
 
   / THAT'S THE BEAR #24  
Thanks Rob, I assumed from looking through your photo albums that your family is pretty heavily into natural nature and that bear is part of the nature that you love so much. Perhaps to go a little further... if you were to eliminate any part of the natural environment at your place it might change it forever in a way that you don't want. It is very cool to be able to see a large mammal like that up close in its environment without worrying about your safety. Once in your new house I think you'll sleep easier too.

I also think that hunters are conservationists. Conservation is a good thing, preservation can be a problem.

You say the 3 S's is that something to the effect of shoot, bury, and silence? Pretty much eliminate the problem animal and don't talk about it?

Do you have any new bear proofing plans for your camp? I think he'll be back and smarter for the experience.
 
   / THAT'S THE BEAR #25  
Sounds like an exciting night in the woods :D

Glad to hear you and everyone are safe and everything worked out for the bear too.

The bear may or may not be back - depending on the food source that is readily available. He/she preobably doesn't want a run-in again either.

I have seen bear sign on my property for the last few years and they have torn down and mangled a feeder, but I have yet to see the bear except on my game cam pics and that is OK w/me.

I still carry a pistol w/me when up at the property and hope and pray I never have to use it. I don't hunt much anymore either for my own personal reasons, and I don't allow hunting on my property either.

My buddies and I were camping out on my property one night sitting around the fire before bedtime, when we heard what I think was a panther, very close by, although I never did see it. Talk about making the hair on your neck stand up...Another reason I carry when I'm up there

I like my Desert Eagle alot :)
 
   / THAT'S THE BEAR #26  
3RRL said:
lol ... Having said all that, I am on my way to get a Bear tag for this area. Bear season in my area starts the same day as Deer season, the 4th Saturday in September this year.

i want to see the pic of the bear pelt on the livingroom floor of that great house your building in a year!
 
   / THAT'S THE BEAR #27  
What's your DE chambered in?

Soundguy

1bush2hog said:
up there

I like my Desert Eagle alot :)
 
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You say the 3 S's is that something to the effect of shoot, bury, and silence? Pretty much eliminate the problem animal and don't talk about it?

Exactly...shoot, shovel and shutup.
Sure don't want to have it go that way though.
Well, I bought the bear tag just in case he becomes a problem later on. This is the first time I got one. I've hunted all over but never for bear. I haven't tried bear meat, but I might? In reality I must admit it is more of a "defensive" tag though. Elk, wild pigs and deer and I can eat them. Had the heads mounted and still have them. I even hunted Elk cows for the meat only.

I've also gotten a deer tag every season for the last 3 years, since there is a small herd with a couple nice bucks in it. Each year I go out and pretend to hunt. I've had bucks in my cross hairs several times and didn't shoot. Ended up glassing them for an hour. Man, it sucks getting old and wondering about stuff that. I never used to think about it when I was younger....of course that's hunting and a whole different story than what happened that night.
 
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Soundguy said:
What's your DE chambered in?

Soundguy

You were asking bushhog, right? But I have one too.
Mine is in .50 cal.



I got it for when I hunted in the Absorokas in Mountana. There was a "dinner bell" Grizzly Bear that came around after hearing the report of a rifle looking for a gut pile. One year there was a mauling in the camp next to ours (like in '94/'95 or so?) So I got this figuring to carry while hunting. Man, with 7 rounds it weighs about 10 lbs!! No scope then of course. Since then I turned it into a hunting handgun. That thing shoots flat at 100 yds easily and has a wallop to it. Maybe I should take the scope off and bring that to camp?
 
   / THAT'S THE BEAR #30  
Very nice gun.

I also have a .50AE.. but it is an AMT automag V

It is lighter thant he DE.. but the business end 'works the same'.

Mine has a gasport2 type vent inthe front.. really helps with muzzle rise.

Thig is pretty much a hand cannon.. I have only used it ont he target range.. or as a personal weapon when hunting .. though started carrying the 44mag ( colt anaconda / long barrell ) due to astronomical ammo prices on the .50ae

Soundguy
 

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