Take a look at Canada

[hugho]

I just had a kubota L45 delivered here from a dealer near Montreal and the price was very good, $5-10K under units here in the states. This reflects the strength of the US dollar. The Loonie has dropped about 20% in the past year. It was over 2500 miles away but shipping was about $2000 or only about 80 cents/ mile and it came INSIDE a semi so looked clean and new. I have since seen several other cheaper than market tractors listed in Canada, The dealer said shipments to the US have really picked up with the strengthening dollar and my experience certainly reflects that. It is best to have the dealer ship it out instead of driving up yourself because you will have to pay sales Tax of 12-15% depending upon the Province and there is a whole slew of laws and regulations in Canada to try to avoid the VAT which tend to favor the bigger tractors. If the dealer takes care of these details, your life will be a lot simpler and my cost in diesel, motels and food, and trailer rental exceeded $2000.

 

[ST98]

What province did it come from?

 

[doxford jim]

What province did it come from?

Montreal is in the province of Quebec.

 

[ST98]

Guess I should of read that, my bad.

 

[MattEffinCameron]

emailed a dealer in montreal after seeing this...still have not heard back

 

[rmk700]

Did you do all your dealing with the Canada dealer over the phone?

I would of never figured a tractor purchase from another county would be cheaper. Congrats on your new cheaper L45!

 

[Looking4new]

I would of never figured a tractor purchase from another county would be cheaper. Congrats on your new cheaper L45!

There is 25 cents difference between the US $ and the Canuck buck. the US buck is worth more. Now a quarter doesn't sound like much all by itself, but multiply that by a few thousands and see what the difference is.

 

[tcartwri]

I'm willing to bet corporate Kubota will step in soon and forbid these types of sales. It has been that way for the last couple of years for Canadians wanting to buy US vehicles from border states. That was while the Canadian dollar was at par or better. Subaru was well known for selling cars for up to $10K cheaper in the States and they drew allot of negative press for their policy of not selling to Canadians.

 

[JJZ 109]

I'm willing to bet corporate Kubota will step in soon and forbid these types of sales. It has been that way for the last couple of years for Canadians wanting to buy US vehicles from border states. That was while the Canadian dollar was at par or better. Subaru was well known for selling cars for up to $10K cheaper in the States and they drew allot of negative press for their policy of not selling to Canadians.

It went this way in the mid to late 80's for a while. Many folks in my area were buying vehicles in Canada. The difference in currencies made for a good savings. The GST/PST would eventually be refunded also. My stepfather bought a brand new 1986 Chevy pickup from the Kingston area back then.
One of the local Ford dealers was doing a ton of cluster swaps back in those days too.

 

[Looking4new]

It went this way in the mid to late 80's for a while. Many folks in my area were buying vehicles in Canada. The difference in currencies made for a good savings. The GST/PST would eventually be refunded also.

It is my understanding that IF you (Americans) get the GST/PST back, you are supposed to report it as income to the IRS. Is this correct information I have?

 

[Garandman]

// Subaru was well known for selling cars for up to $10K cheaper in the States and they drew allot of negative press for their policy of not selling to Canadians.

They didn't care about the "press." They got sued, as was Toyota (who paid $35 million). Ironically Chrysler, Ford, GM, Honda, Nissan and Toyota were sued for not allowing less expensive cars from Canada into the US.

Not only that, because New Hampshire borders Canada and doesn't have a state sales tax, many new cars are registered there, then sold as "used" into Canada. Or China for that matter.

"Canada's national sport isn't hockey: it's smuggling."
Jim McCully

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

There is already rules in place to prevent cross border sales, has been for several years. Its not an anti-consumer effort as much as it is that Kubota USA and Canada are two separate divisions and they try not to mess in each others business.

 

[JJZ 109]

It is my understanding that IF you (Americans) get the GST/PST back, you are supposed to report it as income to the IRS. Is this correct information I have?

As stated, this was back in the 80's. And it was not me personally, it was my stepfather. I never heard him mention income tax implications on this side of the border. He has now been deceased several years so I can't verify anything.
But from my own personal experiences of buying bucket trucks & Harleys out of state, New York got their sales tax when the vehicle was registered. I did not have to pay sales tax in the states that the vehicles were purchased in. Income tax was not a factor as all transactions were on this side of the border. Sorry I didn't have a better answer on the GST/PST question.

 

[andrec999]

I live near the U.S. border, about 30 miles from it, so it have been normal for us to go in the States for camping and week end shopping. Lately, with the exchange of around 25% , it is not to our advantage , we do our shopping
here.
But I don't see many american plates at our malls, if it was reverse (the exchange +25%) , I would go and spend every week end in Platsburgh N.Y. lol

 

[Looking4new]

As stated, this was back in the 80's. And it was not me personally, it was my stepfather. I never heard him mention income tax implications on this side of the border. He has now been deceased several years so I can't verify anything.
But from my own personal experiences of buying bucket trucks & Harleys out of state, New York got their sales tax when the vehicle was registered. I did not have to pay sales tax in the states that the vehicles were purchased in. Income tax was not a factor as all transactions were on this side of the border. Sorry I didn't have a better answer on the GST/PST question.

We used to get away without any tax, IF we bought out of Province and stated through our drivers' license that we were going to use the product in our home Province. That practice ended about the time that the GST (Gouge and Screw Tax) was instituted. The GST tax replaced the old manufacturers tax (which by the way was hidden in the price).
No, the prices did not come down when the manufacturers tax was taken off and the GST was applied.

Now in Ontario we've got the HST which is GST+Provincial sales tax or as i call it Hose and Screw Tax. It doesn't matter which way you look at it, you will get hosed.

There is no such thing as double taxation in Canada, that is why you pay income tax (Federal) on every dollar you earn + Provincial income tax + 13% sales tax on everything you spend.
If you have a boat and buy gas for it at a marina, you don't pay road use tax, BUT you pay luxury tax of 10% on the gas. (That 10% is hidden in the price). They got you coming and going.

Last week the temp was -35F and I saw a Florida license plate at the drugstore here. Maybe the owner got lost.

 

[JJZ 109]

We used to get away without any tax, IF we bought out of Province and stated through our drivers' license that we were going to use the product in our home Province. That practice ended about the time that the GST (Gouge and Screw Tax) was instituted. The GST tax replaced the old manufacturers tax (which by the way was hidden in the price).
No, the prices did not come down when the manufacturers tax was taken off and the GST was applied.

Now in Ontario we've got the HST which is GST+Provincial sales tax or as i call it Hose and Screw Tax. It doesn't matter which way you look at it, you will get hosed.

There is no such thing as double taxation in Canada, that is why you pay income tax (Federal) on every dollar you earn + Provincial income tax + 13% sales tax on everything you spend.
If you have a boat and buy gas for it at a marina, you don't pay road use tax, BUT you pay luxury tax of 10% on the gas. (That 10% is hidden in the price). They got you coming and going

I listen to a Kingston radio station quite often. Is it true what I heard there last week about you guys paying around $25 for a 12 pack of beer? Love Canadian beer for sure, but not that much if it's true!

 

[Looking4new]

I listen to a Kingston radio station quite often. Is it true what I heard there last week about you guys paying around $25 for a 12 pack of beer? Love Canadian beer for sure, but not that much if it's true!

The beer companies won't get rich on me anymore, nor the goobermint monopoly. I MIGHT buy a 6 pack (5 miler) once or twice in the summer, but that is all. Compared to the times before I bought this house when 2 or 3 24's would only do me the first two days of a long weekend. (24's are real cases of beer. Anything smaller was just a teaser.)

 

[check]

Did you do all your dealing with the Canada dealer over the phone? I would of never figured a tractor purchase from another county would be cheaper. Congrats on your new cheaper L45!

You should see the difference in the cost of a new F1 50 pickup truck!

 

[check]

I'm willing to bet corporate Kubota will step in soon and forbid these types of sales. It has been that way for the last couple of years for Canadians wanting to buy US vehicles from border states. That was while the Canadian dollar was at par or better. Subaru was well known for selling cars for up to $10K cheaper in the States and they drew allot of negative press for their policy of not selling to Canadians.

Yep. Back when the Canadian dollar was at $1.10 US, people were buying Canadian built ATVs (Bombardier, which is now called Can-Am) much cheaper in the US than in Canada! So, everybody started "buying South" and then sure enough Bombardier put the kibosh on that. Not sure of the legality of that enforced restriction on trade by the manufacturer, but no one seems to care enough to make a big deal about it.

 

[doxford jim]

Yes, I remember when I got $1.10 US for $1.00 Canadian - that would have been in 1976.
Canada has always been more expensive for general purchases. Medical expenses is another story and the system in Canada takes a lot of beating IMHO. We have both socialized medicine and private and both work. Many people like myself, retired but have some medical issues, are more than adequately cared for - I very much doubt you could do better in the US system of insurance healthcare.
I would often see US plated cars in BC near large shopping malls. I got talking to one owner who said the medicines were often cheaper in Canada and it was worthwhile taking the time to drive across the border. For pretty much everything else it is cheaper to shop in the US.