Synthetic Air

[dmccarty]

Dozernut.

When can you start using Synthetic Air in your Tractor?
How many hours do you have to have on the tires before you put in the Synthetic Air?
Or can you put the Syn Air in when the tires are new?
If so will it leak?

Personally, I'm sticking with plain old air. I think if you follow the manufactuers recommendations there is no reason to spend the extra dollars on Syn Air. Good Old Air works just fine. As long as you keep it topped off.

I hope I dont start a regular Air vs Syn Air war. You know how those discussion's get ugly. Them Syn Air guys are really convinced that if you use anything but Syn Air you will be buying a new tractor real soon now....


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Later,
Dan

 

[slowrev]

I have heard from an expert on the subject that putting synthetic air in tractor tries containing Calcium Chloride can produce approx 1 K ton of explosive force per gallon of mix. These conditions will only occur on the first tuesday of the year with a full moon at 3 PM though. The explosive mix requires a precise fluctuation in the earths gravitational field combined with a precise amount of sunshine at the correct azimuth.

oops hope homeland security does not see this /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Ben

 

[OffBalance]

Hi -
I am considering switching to syn air for my NH tires. Can syn air be mixed with original air, or do I have to completely eliminate all the old first? I'm not expecting too much trouble, since I regularly sample the air in my tires, and send it in for analysis every so often.

Also, does anyone know a good source in the Seattle area? And what are everyone's preferences on brand? I am considering AmsAir, but the Royal Air and RedLineAir look good too, although the RedLine might be too much $$$ for me. Has Mobil Air come out with their product for tractors yet?

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[slowrev]

If you use anything but Amsair you are just using snake air. The Amsair has much better O2 numbers than the rest.

Ben

 

[slowrev]

I hear that the Syntair brand is just cracked aerocarbons with a bit of smog thrown in.

Ben

 

[Dozernut]

Dan, Dan, Dan
Everyone knows that you put the air in only after a six pack is consumed and a Willow tree scratches your tractor. To put in synthetic air you must be wearing a cheesehead hat, Texas boots, Georgia bibs and Sponge Bob undies. After you have purged all the old air out, at the stroke of midnight, while singing Kumbaya, you gently introduce the synthetic air. If the following procedures are not done correctly, the tires will leak.

OffBalance
No you cannot mix the two or you will have mutant air. All kinds of bad thing will develop, it's too horrible to talk about!
DN

 

[BlueRidge]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I hear that the Syntair brand is just cracked aerocarbons with a bit of smog thrown in.

Ben
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No, no, no. Somebody got things mixed up. That's not Syntair, that's SENATORair!


Especially the "cracked" part.




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[dmccarty]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( If you use anything but Amsair you are just using snake air. The Amsair has much better O2 numbers than the res )</font>

I AM O F F E N D E D NOW!

IF YOU USE ANYTHING BUT PURPLE AIR YOU TRACTOR WILL BLOW UP!

I AM GOING OF TO THE OIL FORUM FOR A MORE INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION!

HMMMMPPPPPPHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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Later,
Dan

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Sounds like we need an AIR forum.

Maybe after we get the "rice rocket" forum...............Oh... That's another "humorous thread". (I was confused by all the HOT [non-synthetic] air from that one)

 

[pennwalk]

OMG we're having an ozone alert day. The air aisle at wally world looks like the bread and milk aisles at the grocery store just before a snow storm. Lock up your tractors. There are reports of roving gangs looting air.

Chris

 

[Farmwithjunk]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( OMG we're having an ozone alert day. The air aisle at wally world looks like the bread and milk aisles at the grocery store just before a snow storm. Lock up your tractors. There are reports of roving gangs looting air.

Chris )</font>

Calm down, and take a deep breath. No wait. That won't help will it.......?

 

[bczoom]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Rob, that is the beauty of organic air. No pre-filter is needed. Saves on tool costs so you can buy more implements. )</font>

Bob (or anyone). I was under the impression (based on SAE J276) that whether you use organic or synthetic air, it's best to filter it. Please advise!

Another question I had relating to purification is how much needs to be done for synthetic air in your tires? I want to avoid any rim damage. Does anyone know which companies use high-pressure cylinders and mix pure O2 and N2 and use paramagnetic O2 sensors to validate the quality?

I also heard there's a package available that allows trending, loop-tuning (not sure if that means mixing between a couple tires) and a data logging option that can be put on a PC but I can't find it anymore.

Please help! I want to get the best syn. air but don't know if I need to filter first.

Brian

 

[Junkman]

I use Au Natural Aire by Fancy Tart Smart Bean Company. They are located in Beantown MA. You have to be a Smart Feller to know the the differences in the different scents that they use. One of the biggest sellers is the Green Pea Baked Bean mix. It will clear your head of any thoughts. Just be careful not to install it around any open flames, or you could wind up like a certain famous gerbil.

 

[Steve_Miller]

<font color="red"> Tropical air, on the other hand, is far more dense and improves traction by adding weight down low on your tractor, I don't like the moisture content of the tropical air and feel it might lead to premature rusting of your rims. </font>

I find this far to expensive due to the extra weight which leads to expensive transport costs. I try to capture my own hot air (from both ends) and use it (is this the same recycled air Junk refers to)? Just be careful as it can be volatile to handle sometimes.

Steve

 

[dcamp]

As a purist, I've tried to purchase factory air, and my dealer thought that was a real gas. I did just have a guy on the corner offer me some cheap air, but I think it was hot! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[anthonyk]

Ah, you guyz! Ye'r killin' me! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

anthonk

 

[TonyV]

This press release just in:

"The 'Affordable Air Company' of Reno Nevada has just released a new product marketed toward users of agricultural equipment aptly named Aff-Air, or simply Affair. In order to ease the product into the marketplace, the following precautions were issued for its use:

1. You should not make use of Affair in a public setting.
This has a tendancy to make non-users of Affair,
particularly those in the same household, jealous
and irate especially if Affair is not made available
to them.

2. If the application of Affair is temporary, for instance
one evening only, then under no circumstances
should you leave personal information on our
website, or lying about for others to otherwise find.

3. If you develop a long term obsession for Affair, it
should then be housed in a climate controlled
environment, far removed from ones own dwelling
lest it become volitile.

4. Most users of Affair become addicted to the new
found freedom that they experience in use of their
implements. However, if you find that you must
discontinue use for any reason it is best to
disconnect your implements as soon as possible
after last use.

No warranties or guarantees are implied for those that decide to make use of Affair, as it is a largely untested system and individual results may vary. For those that experience unpleasant results as a result of your Affair leaking out, discounted air fares to Reno, Nevada are available from local suppliers. Good luck, and welcome to the world of Affair."

Manny D. Vorce
Director of Hot Air Development
Affordable Air Company
Reno, Nevada

 

[hitekcountry]

Darn it, it’s times such as these that I wish I had paid better attention in chemistry class such that I might be better able to discuss the subject at hand at the intellectual level required to contribute to this discussion. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
But on the other hand, at the time I was in school, synthetic air had not yet been invented. So us older guys are at a slight disadvantage in this discussion.

I personally would not recommend mixing synthetic air and Dihydrogen Monoxide, especially under the conditions necessary to get DHMO into its gaseous state. In the conditions in which DHMO is a gas, it will burn the skin off your hands and melt your tires. But for some reason people get talked into using it in their tractor tires every day. Unfortunately may people use DHMO in there tractor tires without fully understanding how dangerous this chemical can be.

Oops did I just open another can of worms?

Fred

 

[DaveNay]

I looked into switching to synthetic air for all my vehicles, but what killed me was the cost of the vapor recovery equipment that the EPA mandates you need to use if you ever need to release some pressure from your tires.

The other thing I looked at here in the USA is GMA (Genetically Modified Air). There seems to be a little bit of an underground movement towards this here in the states, but most of the rest of the world is very opposed to GMA. I think the biggest problem they have with it is the fact that you need to buy new air every year, and once you use it you can't keep any of it around to be used in any other application. There are even some companies that are trying to produce GMA that is only good for one season, and after that it looses all of its pressure, forcing you to buy more.

Dave

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I have a technical question. Is modern day synthetic air "breathable"? Could I pack some away in my storm shelter/fallout shelter/hide from the wife room for future use? What's the shelf life? Could I dehydrate some for extended life? Can the contents of this thread be used in court to have any of us commited to an institution?