Super S Premium Hydraulic Tractor Fluid

[GMtb42]

TSC fluid works well also, Traveller brand. Used in the old Kubota and now the Kioti.

 

[rider7767]

TSC fluid works well also, Traveller brand. Used in the old Kubota and now the Kioti.

I looked at TSC Travellers also. I don't see a problem with it. It has high specs. universaltractorhydraulic.html. I would use it; however, the closes TSC is over an hour drive and I have had a good run with NAPA oils. I stopped by an "un-named" tractor dealer the other day while traveling. The mechanic showed me the shop, and they were using Traveller's and NAPA oils. We did not get into the details, but it was there.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I was just looking at my can of Super S Premium Hydraulic fluid and nowhere does it state the SAE rating for the oil. It says only that it is "all weather premium fluid for use in (lists a bunch of tractors and oil specs including Kubota UDT and UDT Super (now defunct I believe) plus HyGard, Caterpillar, John Deere, New Holland and several others.
I was wondering how you determined that yours was SAE 30 weight.

 

[murphy1244]

Its on the data sheet Super S® Premium Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid
Properties Test Method
ASTM DData
SAE Grade 30

 

[rider7767]

I was just looking at my can of Super S Premium Hydraulic fluid and nowhere does it state the SAE rating for the oil. It says only that it is "all weather premium fluid for use in (lists a bunch of tractors and oil specs including Kubota UDT and UDT Super (now defunct I believe) plus HyGard, Caterpillar, John Deere, New Holland and several others.
I was wondering how you determined that yours was SAE 30 weight.

NAPA is 10W30 found on the MSDS sheet. Not sure about the Super S Premium.

 

[grm61]

I was just looking at my can of Super S Premium Hydraulic fluid and nowhere does it state the SAE rating for the oil. It says only that it is "all weather premium fluid for use in (lists a bunch of tractors and oil specs including Kubota UDT and UDT Super (now defunct I believe) plus HyGard, Caterpillar, John Deere, New Holland and several others.
I was wondering how you determined that yours was SAE 30 weight.

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http://www.smittysinc.net/images/products/files/155_Super_S_Premium_Universal_Tractor_Hydraulic_Fluid.pdf

 

[rider7767]

I called Napa, they said their hyd oils come in a 10, 20, or 30wt, not a multi weight 10-30 like our tractors call for.
I looked at the napa premium hydrulic tractor fluid sheet online, it has pour points etc, but no information as to whether it is a 10-30 or a 30 etc.

GRM61
Just following up. During my lunch, I called the number on the MSDS sheet for Cross Oil. I talked with Terry. They are part of the Martin Companies. They make NAPA's "Premium Tractor Hydraulic Fluid". Part number NHF-85401 and NHF-85404. I asked about the grade of the oil. Terry told me the base oil was 10W20 and not 10W30. The MSDS was stating something about a reference point? See contact info below for your viewing pleasure. It is good to know info. I think I will start a thread.

Customer Service Representatives: Tina Estridge & Terry Jones
Direct: 800-343-6361
Fax: 870-864-8661
Cross Oil - Contact Us

 

[Gary Fowler]

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http://www.smittysinc.net/images/products/files/155_Super_S_Premium_Universal_Tractor_Hydraulic_Fluid.pdf

I think for me the 30W would be ideal due to the high ambient temps when I do most of my work. My Kubota oil gets too hot and too thin and I start to loose performance. I don't have extreme winter temps (I don't use it when it is that cold anyway) so I am thinking the 30W oil would be better than the 10W-20 for me.

 

[rider7767]

I think for me the 30W would be ideal due to the high ambient temps when I do most of my work. My Kubota oil gets too hot and too thin and I start to loose performance. I don't have extreme winter temps (I don't use it when it is that cold anyway) so I am thinking the 30W oil would be better than the 10W-20 for me.

I think you would be fine, but I am trying to stay within the specs of oil required by my warranty. To the best of my knowledge they are all multi weight oils due to there benefits.

 

[rider7767]

I know this is a duplicate post, but this is good information that pertains to this post as well.

OK, here we go. I talked with Jeremy Stroud (Kioti Product Support Supervisor) today about the Kioti Warranty and which Tractor Hydraulic fluids can be used. I specifically asked about Napa Premium Heavy Duty Tractor Hydraulic and Transmission Fluid. NAPA fluid was given the green light:greenflag::trafficlight:. I was driving when he returned my call, so I did not go into the others. He stated on the call that it must be a multi grade (10W20, 10W30, etc.) hydraulic/transmission fluid rated for finial drive, gears, wet brakes, etc. It must also say common fluid, common sump or common reservoir. I asked him to email me what we talked about, because I was on the road. See the attached email. Jeremy at Kioti was very knowledgeable and helpful. Thank You Jeremy!!!

My thoughts: Single weight oils are not recommend and may void your warranty if the oil is found to be the culprit. The tolerances in these new tractors are tight. It takes time for strait weight oil to warm and thin. Each time this happens you cause small amounts of wear which causes components to fail early.:salute: I hope this helps.
Keep on running with the Pack!