Security & Theft STOLEN KIOTI DK35SE HST/KL351

[bluechip]

Arrived this morning to find a new 20'flatbed trailer missing, a hole in the fence, and our DK35SE HST demo unit we just put into service last December missing. it had about 50hours SN GT6200329 with KL351 loader SN SR71026665. Had a red Atlas 5' "heavy duty" boxblade on the back. the trailer was an 18'+2ft dovedtail car hauler. We figure it happened last night due to the muddy footprints. On top of that, we just changed insurance companies 2 weeks ago....

 

[greenmule]

I hate thieves.
These was some professional ones though sounds like,not a couple of half drunk good ole boys stealing gas or whatever they could carry.

Don't know what that means as far as finding out who/where,but bet the stuff is either long gone or hid very very well.

 

[JoelD]

I am sorry to hear, I hate this stuff.

As GPS gets cheaper and cheaper pretty soon everything will have a locator on it, then, make a phone call, get coordinates, type them into youir GPS, go for a ride (with 5 of your closest, best secret keeping friends), presto chango you come home with your equipment and a few bruised knuckles (you tripped and fell and landed on the back of your hands, that's how your knuckles got all marked up, just funny how the pavement left marks that look just like teeth).

Joel

 

[Erik_in_Hoyt]

well, that just flat out sucks.
good luck with insurance, since it's pretty safe to suggest you'll not be seeing that TLB again -- although it would be amusing if it were to come in for service in 6 months or so...

 

[Gittyup]

I am sorry to hear, I hate this stuff.

As GPS gets cheaper and cheaper pretty soon everything will have a locator on it, then, make a phone call, get coordinates, type them into youir GPS, go for a ride (with 5 of your closest, best secret keeping friends), presto chango you come home with your equipment and a few bruised knuckles (you tripped and fell and landed on the back of your hands, that's how your knuckles got all marked up, just funny how the pavement left marks that look just like teeth).

Joel

GPS is no panacea. The thieves will just learn to cover it up so that it can't see the satellites. One of those metal foil emergency blankets is all they need. There are, however, solutions that will notify someone the moment the equipment is moved or has left the yard. While they don't necessarily track, they are hard to circumvent because a beacon signal is expected every few seconds or minutes. The lack of the beacon and motion at unallowed times are the alarm conditions. Rapid response, then, would be the key to recovery. This kind of system is way cheaper than GPS/cellular/satcom solutions, too.

I hate thieves. Sorry, Bluechip.

 

[JoelD]

gitty, can you point me to where on the web I could find the device you are talking about?
Thanks,
Joel

 

[Gittyup]

gitty, can you point me to where on the web I could find the device you are talking about?
Thanks,
Joel

The system is based on RFID technology. There are number of vendors that make such things. The best technology is called RTLS (Real Time Location Systems) made by Zebra Technologies Zebra Technologies, Zebra Printers. When you look at their website, it won't be obvious as to what it is and how it works because it has many many broad applications across multiple market sectors. Among the many things built into Zebra's software are geofences and other alarm definitions. I have intimate knowledge because my company is an OEM for Zebra's technology. We add long range (~4.5 miles), motion, GPS and other sensors, and Satcom as options and provide software to gain access to the data through a web browser.

Interestingly enough, no one is actually marketing to this particular application. Opportunity in the waiting for someone.

 

[laen64]

I believe that is a wonderful investment along with the proper tool of correction, this shouldn't happen again. Atleast not by the same perpitrator. HooAh!

 

[Cat_Driver]

Yep, you have to think like a thief to protect your stuff.

I had a bran new 18' dump trailer stolen from a locked gated yard, it was full so weighed a lot, and you can tell they took it with a smaller truck because their tires where spinning all the way out of the lot.

Now on the replacement trailer the wheels come off, sure it's a pain for me, but I still have it.


This is what I'm thinking of next.

LoJack Car Security System for Stolen Vehicle Recovery

 

[jimmyj]

Very sorry to hear about the theft! Gosh darn theives! RRRRRRRRRR. I hate them so much.

I bet they had an "order" from somebody to do a specific job like that. The tractor likely be far away by now or way way back in a hunt camp or something. Too bad.

 

[rd_macgregor]

How about one of those radio collars that biologists track animals with? Stash the transponder somewhere on the equipment, maybe with a motion-activated switch (once on, always on).
I'm usually pretty pacifistic, but thieves rank high on my list of things that need pounding.
BOB

 

[Gittyup]

LoJack has the same problem: Cover it up and you can't be tracked. Uses a fair amount of power too. And it's very pricey.

Problem with dog collar radios is that they report at a very low rate in order to save battery. This application would require a relatively rapid update rate compared to them in order to reduce latency. Second problem is that when you have many of them on the same "network" it creates interference problems and you can run out of ID numbers.

RTLS (ANSI 371) is low cost (~$55) and long battery life (7 years reporting every 4 minutes on a single AA battery. It can report as often as every 5 seconds. Standard device range is about 1500 feet. High power device (with minimum battery impact) is up to 4.5 miles. It can support 10s of thousands of simultaneous devices without performance degradation, each with a unique ID (over 4 billion IDs). Alarm detection is on the order of 10 seconds. And there are no "service" fees like LoJack and other cellular/satellite systems. You buy it once. Pay once and you own it. Now, if you wanted rapid police/security response, then there is obviously a recurring service fee associated with that, but no air-time charges. The difference is that you only pay when it's needed, not every month per device.

 

[JerryG]

Chip,
Sorry to hear about the theft. I was by there on the road Friday and my daughter and probable my future SIL went by there Sunday night. I always look at your lot when I go by but I bet they didn't, but I will ask if they noticed anything.

 

[maddmacc]

Hey sorry to hear of your loss had a remote building broken into about 2 weeks ago and they cleaned me out on all of my hunting stuff really pissed me off. But the problem is the location is 45 minutes from me in a very rual location. So I keep all of my tractors at my house and use two german shepards that are very **** to intruders or tax people

 

[bluechip]

I appreciate all the comments, we think it happened sunday night. Looks like the theifs took time to wire the lights up on the trailer before they left! anyway, its in teh insurance adjusters hands now.