Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline

   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #11  
Can't believe this video hasn't been posted to this thread:


Supposedly, getting into, then sliding out of the car caused a static buildup on her. Just like socks on carpet. One reason I do NOT get back in the car while fueling..
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #12  
I know plastic bed liners can cause serious injury if you do not remove the jugs from the bed. I always put mine on the ground and away from the vehicle during refueling, even though I don't have a bed liner.

Ditto.. place the jug on the ground, and I maintain contact with the nozzle and jug while filling.
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #13  
glad i have a diesel!

also glad I had plenty of ESD training in electronics classes decades ago. I find myself touching something to discharge befroe I open coputers.. ful caps, nozzles.. most things with electronics..e tc. I still have esd bracelets and clip lanyards at my repair station in my shop


Same here, I have been doing the exact same thing since I learned about ESD in the late 70's..
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #14  
Static can slowly discharge through tires. The old fashioned ground strap on the metal bumper (think 1970's), can make that happen quicker. Good to hear that you are making use of the ground strap on your caddy - wise move.

Rgds, D.

I have also grounded my caddy directly to the gas hose handle before pumping. That should be a low resistance connection to ground and dissipate the charge faster. Do you think that is a good choice for grounding?
Bob
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline
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#15  
I have also grounded my caddy directly to the gas hose handle before pumping. That should be a low resistance connection to ground and dissipate the charge faster. Do you think that is a good choice for grounding?
Bob

I need to update some software first... but I should snap a pic of the safety stickers on the pump islands here. I was reading one recently at a station, and noted the relevant clause/subclause legislation #. But, turns out our province seems to have privatized the handling of said legislation's documentation - either that or it is so buried on the provincial site that it is not readily found. (I can only find it For Sale so far - Go Public Safety !).

The relevant clause said that a drum/caddy should be electrically bonded to the vehicle, or trailer that it is on. Sounds reasonable, at a minimum.

I know a little bit about grounding in general, but not gas pumps in particular (from a hard-core engineering standpoint). The "rubber" fuel hose could be made to be fairly conductive electrically, but I don't know for sure if it is or isn't.

My inclination would be to connect a ground as far away from the fuel openings (hose end, tank fill port) as possible, to reduce the chance of a spark near vapour. The fuel pump chassis should be well grounded itself, that would be my first choice.

As I think V1R mentioned, electrically grounding is standard practice for airplanes, before doing anything else. This is well understood in aviation, not so much at 7/11. If you clip onto the hose handle, likely nobody will notice - if you clip onto the pump itself, the kid inside might think you are "hacking" the gas pump !

:rolleyes:

I need to find some better general purpose documentation on fueling up road vehicles, esp. with aux. tanks.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #16  
Video aside, Has anyone ever actually talked to someone that has "caught fire" while fueling?

I mean we all do it so regualrly, and I have never heard of it until the internet got a hold of it.

The instance of a "fire while fueling" has never been reported in our local paper.

Not to dismiss common sense, and I will continue to set the jugs down on the ground while filling. And I will NEVER pull my polyester sweater down while fueling...;-)

But.. this is just not something to get your undies wrapped up over. Statistcs and all.
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #17  
And I will NEVER pull my polyester sweater down while fueling...;-)
I'd be more grateful if you pulled up your britches before bending over. :dance1:

But i noticed she didn't just run away, she shut the pump off. That's pretty gutsy.
 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #18  
Video aside, Has anyone ever actually talked to someone that has "caught fire" while fueling?

I mean we all do it so regualrly, and I have never heard of it until the internet got a hold of it.

The instance of a "fire while fueling" has never been reported in our local paper.

Not to dismiss common sense, and I will continue to set the jugs down on the ground while filling. And I will NEVER pull my polyester sweater down while fueling...;-)

But.. this is just not something to get your undies wrapped up over. Statistcs and all.

Havent seen it myself, but... Here is one from a guy fueling a can in truck.

It DOES happen..



 
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #19  
   / Static electricity hazard while pumping gasoline #20  
I know a little bit about grounding in general, but not gas pumps in particular (from a hard-core engineering standpoint). The "rubber" fuel hose could be made to be fairly conductive electrically, but I don't know for sure if it is or isn't.

I think the fuel hose has a braided sleeve for abrasion resistance as well serving as a ground path.
 

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