Starlink

[Hilbilly]

Yes, a deposit, versus full payment for purchase, will have no expected delivery timeline until they are able to expand capacity.

The service is 'available' everywhere within the latitudes they currently cover, just with a limitation of only a certain number of customers per cell. A cell is their construct to map out the geography over the area they cover with hexagonal sections. Each cell is allowed some (apparently quite limited) number of customers. Someone else got in before you in your cell. Your deposit holds a place within your cell so when capacity rises you'll get a chance to have your order fulfilled.

They use these cells to limit connections to the sats as the sat is passing overhead within the cone of visibility of the dish on the ground. This is due to both the smaller number of sats in the sky and the limited number of receiving ground stations in place so far.

Rob

My neighbor that abuts my south property line received his dish within 2 weeks of ordering and he ordered 5 months after I did. I placed my order 7 months ago and still have not received confirmation of shipment. The difference being that I used my true service location and he used a service location for an address in the little town close to us. That town is 20 km away. Despite the service locations difference he still gets excellent service and loves it.

The neigbor that abuts my east property line relocated her parents dish to her house and it works but does tell her that the service locations is not correct and she may experience service issues. to date she has not experienced service issues and her parents house was at least 25 km from her location.

Obviously there is service to my area and I applied before my neighbors. Yet they have operating systems and I do not.

edit: sp and grammer.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

https://hackaday.com/2021/10/10/gps-with-starlink-we-dont-need-it-any-more/

This might be of interest to super geeks?

 

[ernemats]

Thanks.
Between 10-15 Mb.

Did you get the storm and flooding and if so did dishy survive?

 

[cqaigy2]

Did you get the storm and flooding and if so did dishy survive?

So far so good. No fade or anything with the dish, during the rain.

 

[Alan W.]

Well Elon Barnum has moved the expected available date to mid next year for my area.
Gonna have to go another route, Hughesnet has got to go.
Son ran a 1000’ of fiber to the top of the hill and gets 30 down 8 up using a cell service at $50 per 100 gb. He said that he has spare lines if I want to go that route.

 

[forgeblast]

Well Elon Barnum has moved the expected available date to mid next year for my area.
Gonna have to go another route, Hughesnet has got to go.
Son ran a 1000’ of fiber to the top of the hill and gets 30 down 8 up using a cell service at $50 per 100 gb. He said that he has spare lines if I want to go that route.

How does he power the cell service from the hill down. might be something I have to do too....

 

[Alan W.]

forgeblast he uses a deep cycle battery and a solar panel.
He may need to add another battery and or get a bigger solar panel this winter.

 

[plowhog]

Son ran a 1000’ of fiber to the top of the hill and gets 30 down 8 up using a cell service at $50 per 100 gb.

I presume you put a cell antenna / repeater at the top of the hill? Can you share what equipment you used? Not exactly sure how you are using a fiber connection for this but I could potentially do the same.

 

[ponytug]

@Alan W. Great job by your son!

I looked into doing the same thing, here. LTE modem on a tower at the top of the hill, independently powered by solar to save running power five hundred very awkward and challenging feet. By using fiber instead of copper wire to send the data signals down the hill, you can run much farther between pieces of equipment (repeaters), and you avoid lightning induced voltage surges in the data lines. You could also do it via radio links, but they require more power than fiber. I think fiber is the better way, but it is really six of one, half dozen the other...

If you have T-mobile in the area, have a look at Calyx that has some relatively low cost truly unlimited data options. It isn't simple, but it might save you a lot. I think that a big item is finding data plans that meet your cost and performance requirements.

All the best,

Peter

 

[riptides]

..... I think that a big item is finding data plans that meet your cost and performance requirements.

Yes, YES.

Connectivity is not the whole battle. The data plans are the key. Throttling and data limits will make connectivity a moot point.

 

[ernemats]

I just checked Starlink site for my address and it went from mid to late 2021 to early to mid 2022

 

[cjoffutt]

I just checked Starlink site for my address and it went from mid to late 2021 to early to mid 2022

Well that certainly sucks. Just checked mine out of curiosity. It still shows mid/late 2021. Hoping it's like next week, lol. Getting tired of paying Dish 115 a month when I could just be downloading everything for way less.

 

[plowhog]

I have two: one says mid-to-late 2021 and the other says late 2021.

 

[Alan W.]

I presume you put a cell antenna / repeater at the top of the hill? Can you share what equipment you used? Not exactly sure how you are using a fiber connection for this but I could potentially do the same.

I will ask him tonight what he used exactly.
I do know that he has no cell antenna or booster yet.
He ran a transformer to step the voltage down instead of an inverter to cut power losses.
We looked into trying to run cell service thru the fiber but the cost is ridiculous. So he uses wifi calling on his phone.

 

[cqaigy2]

I will ask him tonight what he used exactly.
I do know that he has no cell antenna or booster yet.
He ran a transformer to step the voltage down instead of an inverter to cut power losses.
We looked into trying to run cell service thru the fiber but the cost is ridiculous. So he uses wifi calling on his phone.

Interesting. An inverter would suggest DC to AC conversion, but a transformer only works with AC, so maybe dropping AC voltage down then rectifying to DC?

 

[Alan W.]

My son used a Netgear LB1120 modem which he says has been discontinued by Netgear and replaced by LM1200.

Two - 10G Tek ethernet media converters LC fiber spf included.

DC to DC voltage buck converter adjustable.

LANshack fiber
6 strand indoor/outdoor single mode preterminated LC UPC full duplex

The modem runs on 12 volt but the media converter is 5 volt thus the converter.

I think everything was from Amazon except for the fiber.

 

[Fallon]

My son used a Netgear LB1120 modem which he says has been discontinued by Netgear and replaced by LM1200.

Two - 10G Tek ethernet media converters LC fiber spf included.

DC to DC voltage buck converter adjustable.

LANshack fiber
6 strand indoor/outdoor single mode preterminated LC UPC full duplex

The modem runs on 12 volt but the media converter is 5 volt thus the converter.

I think everything was from Amazon except for the fiber.

Surprisingly you can run most consumer electronics with a wall wart power supply of '
"12 volt" automotive power. I've ran a bunch of network gear rated for 5 to 14 v just fine off car voltage. Kept expecting for things to not work or let the smoke out, but never had a problem. Probably not the best plan for maximum life or reliability though.

After years of poking wall wart power supplies with a multimeter it's surprising how many are off their rated voltage by a volt or 2. Makes you realize how low precision they are & how tolerant electronics need to be.

 

[Alan W.]

Surprisingly you can run most consumer electronics with a wall wart power supply of '
"12 volt" automotive power. I've ran a bunch of network gear rated for 5 to 14 v just fine off car voltage. Kept expecting for things to not work or let the smoke out, but never had a problem. Probably not the best plan for maximum life or reliability though.

After years of poking wall wart power supplies with a multimeter it's surprising how many are off their rated voltage by a volt or 2. Makes you realize how low precision they are & how tolerant electronics need to be.

My son said he thought about just running it on 12 volts that it would probably have done just fine. But he likes to play with things.
When my brick on a leash for my laptop died I cut the end off crimped a couple of spade ends on and used my Porter Cable batteries to run it. Worked great.

 

[Fallon]

My son said he thought about just running it on 12 volts that it would probably have done just fine. But he likes to play with things.
When my brick on a leash for my laptop died I cut the end off crimped a couple of spade ends on and used my Porter Cable batteries to run it. Worked great.

Lol, made a corded battery for some Ryobi One+ gear out of an old 18.5v laptop power supply & a shell of a dead battery

 

[bdhsfz6]

I just checked Starlink site for my address and it went from mid to late 2021 to early to mid 2022

I live in northeastern PA. When I go on the Starlink home page and enter my address, it also says "early to mid 2022" However, when I sign on to my Starlink account, it still says "mid to late 2021" ??

Unfortunately, I suspect the dates have slipped well into 2022.