Starlink

[rekees4300]

Land based FO systems use a substantial amount of electronic and electrical components and are in no way immune to EMP.

STUFF HAPPENS...does that mean we should all stick our heads in the sand and stop living? An EMP from one nuke over St. Louis or another Carrington Event would destroy the whole USA electrical grid. Folks would have much more important things to worry about than Internet access, for example food, water, and shelter access. EMPs aren't on my list of considerations when pondering Starlink usage.

Carrington Event - Wikipedia

 

[LouNY]

Land based FO systems use a substantial amount of electronic and electrical components and are in no way immune to EMP.

But much easier to repair and restart.

 

[kcflhrc]

But much easier to repair and restart.

If you can get your vehicle started to get to the CO

 

[LouNY]

STUFF HAPPENS...does that mean we should all stick our heads in the sand and stop living? An EMP from one nuke over St. Louis or another Carrington Event would destroy the whole USA electrical grid. Folks would have much more important things to worry about than Internet access, for example food, water, and shelter access. EMPs aren't on my list of considerations when pondering Starlink usage.

Carrington Event - Wikipedia

May not be on your list of considerations, but it is a subject that should be considered in many aspects.
It does not need to be the size of the Carrington event there have been many smaller ones which have has some effect,
and it will happen again.
No wheres have I advocated sticking our heads in the sand and to stop living.
But people need to anticipate that many modern "necessities" are fragile and need maintenance and care.
My wife is one of them, she can't understand why I keep written "printed" reference materials around.
Her stock answer is you can get it off the internet,
she doesn't like it and can't seem to comprehend that it can fail and crash for no apparent reason and for no known time.

 

[kcflhrc]

I think we can all agree that we have become way too dependent on the internet and could have disastrous consequences if we don't find alternatives to make it more stable. One idiot on a backhoe can cause a huge outage. I have seen it time and time again. Fortunately we have pretty good response times to cut fiber but it still takes time to repair.

 

[LouNY]

I think we can all agree that we have become way too dependent on the internet and could have disastrous consequences if we don't find alternatives to make it more stable. One idiot on a backhoe can cause a huge outage. I have seen it time and time again. Fortunately we have pretty good response times to cut fiber but it still takes time to repair.

Back before the internet and cell phones and towers I was living and working in West Texas.
Had an electrical job to do part of which entailed running a trencher and laying in com cable for about 1/2 a mile,
this crossed at right angles and then paralleled for a few hundred feet one of the major trans continental phone cables.
I was amazed at the amount of supervision that was around that day and it had taken several weeks to get every thing arranged to do the work.
Well over a dozen people standing around watching me on that Ditch Witch putting down 4 foot deep trench while I was any where's near the marked routing of that cable.
As soon as we got that one section done and re buried they all disappeared.
It was kind of like "thank God and Greyhound she's gone". :laughing:

 

[Diggin It]

But much easier to repair and restart.

We're going off thread here, but no. Localized ice or wind storms that bring down poles, towers and lines can take many days to restore. Those items are generally readily available and stocked. A widespread EMP event could take months to recover from. Items that would need to be replaced include transformers and other substation items. Those are not stocked. They are usually built to order and can take weeks or longer.

Consider what we've been talking about on other threads where home generator components are taking 8-12 weeks from order to ship. Those items should be available, but are not due to demand. If there were to be a mass scale event that required dozens or hundreds of substation scale transformers and control components, there could be a substantial wait.

 

[riptides]

I have always wanted a phased array satellite tracking antenna for my house.

Next up, a flux capacitor, I am sure.

Just saying. :wink:

 

[cqaigy2]

^^^^^^^Ha ha. :laughing:

 

[rekees4300]

Ookla's Starlink speed test. Much faster than Hughesnet or Viasat.

Tested: SpaceX's Starlink Satellite Internet Service Is Fast, But It'll Cost You | PCMag

 

[rekees4300]

11/3/2020

Elon Musk "Several thousand more Starlink beta participation invitations going out this week"

He also estimated the public beta will expand to the southern US, such as Florida, likely by January when the company has more satellites up in orbit to power the broadband network.

Elon Musk: 'Several Thousand More' Starlink Public Beta Invites to Go Out Soon | PCMag

 

[cqaigy2]

Where's my invite?

 

[Diggin It]

Starlink Beta Speeds & Latencies Revealed / AT&T Eliminates DSL Service - YouTube

Report about the need for Starlink

AT&T here in my area has opted to to go wireless for it's rural customers rather than invest money in outdated technology like DSL. It's their Fixed Wireless Internet and is more than capable of meeting the FCC Broadband requirement. It works well for me. I don't blame AT&T for dumping that wireline service but I do have a problem with them abandoning their customer's all together if that's what really happened.

Turns out that was all because the FCC under a certain somebody we can't talk about here changed the rules, changing Broadband from a Title 2 Communications Utility to an 'Information Service'.

 

[cqaigy2]

^^^^ Lol! ^^^^

 

[rekees4300]

Good news for CANADA :thumbsup:

SpaceX's Starlink Can Start Serving Users in Canada, Regulator Says | PCMag

 

[rekees4300]

11/9/2020

Canadian beta test invites will begin to be sent out this week

Beta test the Starlink in Canada will begin to be sent out this week. : Starlink

 

[dmccarty]

11/3/2020

Elon Musk "Several thousand more Starlink beta participation invitations going out this week"

He also estimated the public beta will expand to the southern US, such as Florida, likely by January when the company has more satellites up in orbit to power the broadband network.

Elon Musk: 'Several Thousand More' Starlink Public Beta Invites to Go Out Soon | PCMag

I signed up for the Beta. I sure hope we have service in NC in January and we get picked.

Later,
Dan

 

[MAD777]

Some of my original excitement for starlink has waned. I was under the false impression that there will not be a dish attached to the roof of my house. That may have been a naive oversight on my part but it's a complexity I wasn't counting on. Also the $500 fee and me owning the device and therefore saddled with cost of the maintenance and replacement of it in the future deters me somewhat. The $99 a month fee gives me only the internet as opposed to a complete cable package of Television Internet and phone / alarm services.

 

[rekees4300]

Some of my original excitement for starlink has waned. I was under the false impression that there will not be a dish attached to the roof of my house. That may have been a naive oversight on my part but it's a complexity I wasn't counting on. Also the $500 fee and me owning the device and therefore saddled with cost of the maintenance and replacement of it in the future deters me somewhat. The $99 a month fee gives me only the internet as opposed to a complete cable package of Television Internet and phone / alarm services.

I was under the same false impression. Recall reading several months ago that the dish could be indoors but apparently that was just speculation. For me it's still too early to make a decision. Many factors are likely to change when Starlink goes from beta to commercial in a few months. One factor that wont change for me is the 5 large trees near my house. I also don't like the idea of drilling holes in the roof but perhaps Starlink will provide more mounting alternatives when they go commercial? Time will tell re TV & Phone & alarm services.

 

[rekees4300]

I signed up for the Beta. I sure hope we have service in NC in January and we get picked.

Later,
Dan

700,000 signed up for the public beta. Dubious a large percentage of those will be picked for beta. However it is likely ALL of the unpicked will be solicited by Starlink post-beta to become customers.