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#181  
Wow, 100Mb. Not sure what i'd do with 100 times more download speed. :D

100Mb is just the test phase. Starlink's goal in 2021, worldwide, is 1Tb (aka 1000 Mb)! With that much speed, rural folks will be able to do data streaming like Roku.
 
   / Starlink #182  
100Mb is just the test phase. Starlink's goal in 2021, worldwide, is 1Tb (aka 1000 Mb)! With that much speed, rural folks will be able to do data streaming like Roku.

1000mb is Gig. That is fiber speeds. Doubt you will ever see that from a satellite but never say never. I stream without issue on my AT&T Mobley SIM Card in a Netgear 4G LTE Modem with a Netgear Nighthawk behind it. My download speed ranges from 20 meg to 60 meg and never had an issue streaming anything over a FireStick. And for $22 a month I will have it as long as they let me. ROKU according to their website will stream on 3 meg. CAF mandates minimum 10 meg so there ya go.
 
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#183  
1000mb is Gig. That is fiber speeds. Doubt you will ever see that from a satellite but never say never. I stream without issue on my AT&T Mobley SIM Card in a Netgear 4G LTE Modem with a Netgear Nighthawk behind it. My download speed ranges from 20 meg to 60 meg and never had an issue streaming anything over a FireStick. And for $22 a month I will have it as long as they let me. ROKU according to their website will stream on 3 meg. CAF mandates minimum 10 meg so there ya go.

Thanks for the clarification: 1 Gigabyte (aka billion) = 1000 Megabytes (aka million)

A Roku movie download is 2-3 gigabytes. My monthly data cap from Verizon Wireless is 15 gigabytes which is barely enough to do Internet browsing much less streaming.

4 billion people on Earth don't have any Internet access. Starlink's mission is to remedy that problem. If successful the consequences will be dramatic.
 
   / Starlink #184  
100Mb is just the test phase. Starlink's goal in 2021, worldwide, is 1Tb (aka 1000 Mb)! With that much speed, rural folks will be able to do data streaming like Roku.

You can effectively stream some content at 10Mb, but maybe not the HiDef stuff. I have 25Mb DSL which is all I need. They would have to come in well below $50/mo for me to switch. Best option would be a tiered structure where customers could select their desired BW and price.
 
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#185  
You can effectively stream some content at 10Mb, but maybe not the HiDef stuff. I have 25Mb DSL which is all I need. They would have to come in well below $50/mo for me to switch. Best option would be a tiered structure where customers could select their desired BW and price.

There will be many variables involved when we make the switch decision. In a few months we should know Starlink's marketing strategy and prices. Personally I feel like I've been ripped off for years by greedy rural ISPs so I'm willing to pay more for a service that is actually worth more. A service with reliability, high speed, no data cap, and a reasonable price would be a dream come true. :cloud9:
 
   / Starlink #186  
We sell our Gigabit Fiber for $65 a month for as long as you keep it. Problem is, you need to be in one of the fiber subdivisions. But I would rather have crappy internet than live in a subdivision again. One of the tradeoffs of living rural but I wouldn't change a thing.
 
   / Starlink #187  
There will be many variables involved when we make the switch decision. In a few months we should know Starlink's marketing strategy and prices. Personally I feel like I've been ripped off for years by greedy rural ISPs so I'm willing to pay more for a service that is actually worth more. A service with reliability, high speed, no data cap, and a reasonable price would be a dream come true. :cloud9:

Exactly...I would pay $125/mo for unlimited HS for internet, and TV use.
 
   / Starlink #188  
Exactly...I would pay $125/mo for unlimited HS for internet, and TV use.

I'm guessing that may be a little unrealistic. You might get the HSI for that price after the Feds tax the **** out of it.
 
   / Starlink #189  
We sell our Gigabit Fiber for $65 a month for as long as you keep it.

That's one of my issues. I'm on a frozen price plan with my Telco for DSL. If I cancel to try another service, don't like it and want to come back, I may not get the same price.
 
   / Starlink #190  
That's one of my issues. I'm on a frozen price plan with my Telco for DSL. If I cancel to try another service, don't like it and want to come back, I may not get the same price.

See if the other service has a trial period and just keep the DSL until you test the other out thoroughly. I don't have a wired option where I live. I'm in AT&T territory but they don't do DSL where I'm at. They have opted to do it wireless with their Fixed Home Wireless solution. Little do they know my Mobley Sim uses the same tower for 1/2 the price. and it's unlimited. Their other plan has a data cap but it is very high. Pretty sure the price is $50 a month for it.
 
   / Starlink #191  
Will storms effect it the way they do Dish or Direct tv ? I know 20 years ago I had satallite internet and it was constantly lost during even mild rain or snow storms
 
   / Starlink #192  
Exactly...I would pay $125/mo for unlimited HS for internet, and TV use.

I am getting ready to call Charter Spectrum and cancel my cable TV because I think $125 is too much to pay for high speed internet and cable TV! I'm keeping my high speed internet (100MB) but I think the TV is overpriced. Especially when we pay for Hulu, Netflix, Disney+ and CBS All Access!
 
   / Starlink #193  
The Starlink constellation is in low earth orbit (LEO) whereas the others are in geosynchronous orbit, much high and much further away. This is the theoretical reason why Starlink latency can be so much lower. Whether or not SX achieves it remains to be seen.
 
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Will storms effect it the way they do Dish or Direct tv ? I know 20 years ago I had satallite internet and it was constantly lost during even mild rain or snow storms

Time will tell with public beta testing across the northern USA and southern Canada. If the "UFO on a stick" can handle those conditions this Winter then it can handle anything. You're correct about Directv. We have it and it stops with snow on the dish or moderate rain in the clouds. The snow problem is easily solved with a broom but the rain problem is unsolvable.
 
   / Starlink #195  
There will be many variables involved when we make the switch decision. In a few months we should know Starlink's marketing strategy and prices. Personally I feel like I've been ripped off for years by greedy rural ISPs so I'm willing to pay more for a service that is actually worth more. A service with reliability, high speed, no data cap, and a reasonable price would be a dream come true. :cloud9:
Yes!
My current ISP, Spectrum, is garbage and I'm only 2 miles from the Verizon cell tower and the cell Service is just as bad.
Funny Starkink is only a today copy of something proposed by Asimov or VanVogt in the early 50s. Ain't we modern.
 
   / Starlink #196  
Will storms effect it the way they do Dish or Direct tv ? I know 20 years ago I had satallite internet and it was constantly lost during even mild rain or snow storms

Yes absolutely! The laws of nature don't yield to Elon Musk no matter what the fan boys say. A hard wired network connection is always more reliable than any wireless connection and isn't affected by weather, vegetation, structures and geography.
 
   / Starlink #197  
A hard wired network connection is always more reliable than any wireless connection and isn't affected by weather, vegetation, structures and geography.

Other than wind blowing trees over and/or heavy ice accumulation breaking wires. And there are backhoes, excavators and other digging machines.
 
   / Starlink #198  
Other than wind blowing trees over and/or heavy ice accumulation breaking wires. And there are backhoes, excavators and other digging machines.
In the past 20 years my buried land line was down 3x due to backhoes/excavators etc. Satellite/wireless goes down every time there a rain or snow storm either at my place or the uplink center which can be up to several times a month.
 
   / Starlink #199  
^^ Those types of signal fade outages tend to be temporary, often no more than a few minutes, maybe a couple of hours in more widespread storms. Trees downing wires due to wind or ice can cause multi-day long outages. Twice in the past 10-15 years, we've had 10+ day power outages and several other multi-hour long outages. In many areas the TelCo or cable lines were also down and took days or weeks to restore. Those that had generators were back online as soon as a few minutes or as soon as the clouds cleared or they got the ice off their dishes.

Every systems has advantages and disadvantages.
 
   / Starlink #200  
My wireless Internet has never been down since i've used it. My telephone land line has never been down either. We have numerous power outages from overhead lines getting knocked out from trees mostly, some ice and rarely vehicles hitting poles. Longest without power, just over two weeks, long enough for cell towers to go down too.

That said, if someone comes to me and says they want to put some sort of networked gear someplace, they usually want to use wireless, i ask them how reliable do you want it to be, and they almost always say, very reliable, it can't go down. I tell'em, they got to pay for a hard connection then, not wireless.
 

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