square baling with a 431/451??

[stevenbryant19]

I've got a smaller farm and I square bale 25 acres. My dad has baled the farm for 30 years with a david brown 990 and had no problems as far as the tractor being able to pull the baler . . last year I purchased a new holland 565 square baler I believe the min Hp. requirement is 35 pto hp. I realize the 431 has 44pto and the 451 has 45pto I was just wondering is anyone had used one with a 565 and had decent power to pull hills because my farm is quite hilly and I dont want to end up with a tractor thats underpowered for my use . .

 

[stevenbryant19]

I've got a smaller farm and I square bale 25 acres. My dad has baled the farm for 30 years with a david brown 990 and had no problems as far as the tractor being able to pull the baler . . last year I purchased a new holland 565 square baler I believe the min Hp. requirement is 35 pto hp. I realize the 431 has 44pto and the 451 has 45pto I was just wondering is anyone had used one with a 565 and had decent power to pull hills because my farm is quite hilly and I dont want to end up with a tractor thats underpowered for my use . .

 

[scott_vt]

Mornin Steve,
My neighbor pulls his baler with a 60 HP JD 4WD and also pulls his hay wagon behind that, and baler has the kicker attachment. We have some pretty good hills up here. Sorry I dont have more info than that.

 

[scott_vt]

Mornin Steve,
My neighbor pulls his baler with a 60 HP JD 4WD and also pulls his hay wagon behind that, and baler has the kicker attachment. We have some pretty good hills up here. Sorry I dont have more info than that.

 

[dgl24087]

If you're just pulling the baler, either tractor should be fine. With a wagon and baler, it would be tricky if the hills are very steep.

 

[dgl24087]

If you're just pulling the baler, either tractor should be fine. With a wagon and baler, it would be tricky if the hills are very steep.

 

[JerryG]

The 431 would be the min. that you could use. The 451 would do much better, power wise and weight.

 

[JerryG]

The 431 would be the min. that you could use. The 451 would do much better, power wise and weight.

 

[dgl24087]

After looking at the specs on MF website, the 451 is a much better choice, namely because of the wet disc brakes and planetary final drive over the 431's dry drum brakes and direct type axle.

 

[dgl24087]

After looking at the specs on MF website, the 451 is a much better choice, namely because of the wet disc brakes and planetary final drive over the 431's dry drum brakes and direct type axle.

 

[Jordanbear]

We have the 451 and bale about the same amount of acreage (including a big hill) with a NH 278 hayliner. Your baler might be a little bigger, but the tractor deals just fine. Our mower (Kuhn 600II disc mower) uses more PTO than the baler (and it handles the mower fine too).

I really like it - it has the shuttle which is nice, and independent PTO. Sometimes I need to put it in 4wd on a steep turn, but my baler doesn't bale & turn at the same time anyway..