Spacing On Landscapr Rake Tines

   / Spacing On Landscapr Rake Tines #1  

oldsmoboat

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I've been reading some of the threads on building a landscape rake.
I've decided to tackle it on a smaller scale for a category 0 tractor I have.
My rear blade bolts on to the 3 point mount with four bolts. I am going to remove the blade and attach the rake I build via the bolt holes.
Maybe later, I will build a separate mount.

What's the spacing between the tines for a 72" rake?
Using these tines:
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   / Spacing On Landscapr Rake Tines #2  
Mine are half an inch apart.

Don't want to presume, especially since you've only just begun the project - but you ARE going to cut down that blade center post, right? Otherwise you'll have tines mounted behind what with then represent somewhat of an immovable object.

//greg//
 
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greg_g said:
Mine are half an inch apart.

Don't want to presume, especially since you've only just begun the project - but you ARE going to cut down that blade center post, right? Otherwise you'll have tines mounted behind what with then represent somewhat of an immovable object.

//greg//
The rake will be mounted below the center post, just as the blade is.
 

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Can't feature that working. The lower section of the center tube - the part that was behind the blade before - will interfere with the tines. Doesn't matter if you put them in front of it or behind. And if you put the tines UNDER the lower angle iron where your arrow points, the TPH geometry will be compromised. You want your lift arms and toplink to be as horizontal as possible when most implements are in their working position. And how about transport height? I hope you do realize that standard tines are a full 15 inches high when positioned on their horizontal plane (typical carry position). So you'll need at least 16 inches of lift just to get the tines outa the dirt.

Looks to me like you should remove the section of the center tube that's just under the upper angle iron, and attach the rake tine bracket there. You'll still retain your indexing capability, geometry will be the same as the blade, and nothing will interfere with tine activity.

//greg//
 
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I guess I am dense, I am missing the interference. This is my first time trying something like this.

The rake will be taller than the blade changing the angle. I am thinking I can change that angle by using a wedge or shim in the mounting location. I don't imagine the weight against the rake will be the same as I've had against the blade when pulling ditches.

With the 3 point fully raised, I have 25" to the ground from the bottom holes, 35 from the top. I won't be using the top holes though.
I can see interference with the tires at an angle, the rear blade is only 5'. But it ought to allow me to rake up some rocks and dead grass.

My only expense right now will be the tines as I have the metal.

Thanks for the input, I need it.

Excuse the image, I am by no means an artist.
:D
 

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greg_g said:
Can't feature that working. The lower section of the center tube - the part that was behind the blade before ...

//greg//

The blade sits behind the center tube. Will it still bind?
Sorry, I am confused.
 
   / Spacing On Landscapr Rake Tines #7  
I suggest you Google for images of pre-fab landscape rakes. Look at the ones that are already mounted behind tractors. You'll see what I mean by the TPH geometry.

The way I understand your intended design puts the tines UNDER the former scraper blade location. Where they belong is IN PLACE of the former scraper blade. To do that you have to cut off the center tube up to the height of the 2nd angle iron. Your tines should mount at THAT level.

Note where I put the arrow on your photo. That's the 2nd angle iron I was trying to identify. Cut the center tube off flush with the bottom of that angle iron. Mount your tines on a square tube/c-channel/angle iron as you see fit. Then mount it to the angle iron that is still attached to the center tube. This then essentially replaces your former blade with tines, thereby preserving the original TPH geometry.

There'll be a lot of stress on that surviving angle iron, it might need some reinforcing before it will become a suitable anchor point for the tube/channel/angle iron to which the tines are actually attached.

//greg//
 

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If I remember right, mine are 2 inches apart. I wanted them wide enough to let the dirt throught, but close enough to catch every branch.

I've been thinking about removing every other tine and having more space between the tines. The biggest problem that I'm having with mine is the sticks that get stuck between the tines. I don't get every stick anyway, so since it fills up without any trouble, there's no point in trying to get more in there when that's not possible.

Having to get off my tractor and remove branches that are stuck between the tines is frustrating. Having to stop defeats the entire point of having the rake.

Eddie
 
   / Spacing On Landscapr Rake Tines #10  
I owned a KingKutter that used 1 inch wide tines on a 2" pitch, so there was 1 inch between tines. I used it in woods trails and gravel driveway and shaping lawn for seeding and such. Then I sold it and built a rake from scratch, using the larger tines and put them on a larger spacing. The tines are 1.25 wide, and I put them on a 2.5 inch pitch, so the space between is 1.25 inch. I think the new rake with slightly wider pitch plugs with stuff less often. Chunks of wood, roots, even the right-shaped flat rock, can wedge between tines. The 1.25 space seems to require less stopping to clean. Here's the link to my rake build project, in " Build It Yourself " forum:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/98170-homemade-landscape-trail-rake.html
 
 

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