Sometimes if it wasn't for bad luck.....

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KrisHansen

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Sometimes if it wasn\'t for bad luck.....

... I would have no luck at all.. Latest issue, the fan belt jumped the pulley and got a nice cut in it...

anyone used an automotive equivilent belt on a NH tractor? or do I have to trek to the dealer for hte real deal?
 
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Kris I try to look at bad luck like this, It could have been much, much worse. You will have the new belt on and be back up and running in no time. I would also bet that if you take the belt to a local Auto Zone that they can match it up for you.
 
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Kris

I'd be interested in why it jumped. Something must either be loose or out of alignment. I would check both by eye and using a straightedge. I've run tractors for over 40 years and never lost a belt. An auto belt should be fine. I'd personally go for one of the HD ones. If you install it you should be able to eyeball an alignment problem. The belt will try to "walk" out of a pulley.

Andy
 
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Thanks guys... Andy, I'd be willing to be it was loose.. It ocurred to me that I forgot to check the tension when I did the 50hr service... Though, I've never had a belt jump off either, usually they just get loose and squeal.

I'll be sure to grab the heaviest duty one that they have.
 
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Kris, one day while mowing the lawn with my B2710 Kubota, the belt came off and got torn up in the process. I went by my Kubota dealer and he didn't have a new one in stock, so I went to an auto parts store with the broken belt, they measured it the best they could in the ragged and broken condition it was in, and sold me a new belt. The new belt was barely long enough to get it on, but fit OK. And I never could figure out any reason for the original belt to have come off unless it was just loose originally. Anyway the belt never came off again.
 
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Kris, I've had perfectly good belts that were tensioned properly jump out of a pulley, but not without the help of a limb from some brush I drove by. Is there a chance you had a broken piece of a limb or even a pebble somewhere that could have dropped into the the space between the pulley and the belt? As the belt rotates, the stick or pebble forces the belt up and out of the pulley. That would throw your belt and then the "evidence" gets tossed to the side or out of the tractor and you never see what caused the problem. It hasn't happened on my New Holland, but it sure happened on my old Ford Jubilee (which is a lot more open around the fan area). You didn't leave a metal bottle cap laying loose under your hood after you did your 50hr service did you? In the aircraft industry, they call it FOD. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

I'd replace the belt, and if it looks like it's okay, call it good. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Thanks all!!

I stopped by my FLAPS and picked up a belt.. It's not exactly the same as the OE belt, it's not toothed, but otherwise it fits perfectly..

Not sure what might have caused it to jump off, but I do know that just before it did, I was playing with a very dusty/sooty former burn pile, and I know for a fact that a lot of soot got sucked through the radiator..
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Thanks all!!

I stopped by my FLAPS and picked up a belt.. It's not exactly the same as the OE belt, it's not toothed, but otherwise it fits perfectly..

Not sure what might have caused it to jump off, but I do know that just before it did, I was playing with a very dusty/sooty former burn pile, and I know for a fact that a lot of soot got sucked through the radiator.. )</font>

I farm for a living, got 7 tractors, a combine powered by vbelts, lots of augers & and so on.

I _hate_, _hate_ those toothed belts. Many of the oem belts on the combine that take 50-75% of the full engine hp were toothed, and would last 18 moths if I were lucky. Finally found a source for good smooth vbelts, and at least doubled the life of the belts. I have smooth fan belts on all my tractors - the junky segmented oem's would last about 18 months of hard use, then shred. Got some good smooth ones that are over 10 years old....

I suspect that was your problem, and you actually have a much better belt now. At least, that is _my_ experience. The dealers have all kinds of stories how the toothed belts don't get as hot, last longer, blah blah blah.

Not in _my_ experience.

I _hate_ segmented vbelts.

Sorry for my wishy-washy attitude on this.

--->Paul
 
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C'mon Paul...tell us how you REALLY feel about toothed v-belts. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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Jim if I didn't know better I would swear that Paul was real unhappy bout those segmented belts. What do you think? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

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