Someone knows them? Xingtai

[Mac624]

As all the compacttractors are too large for my use and used Kubotas are very expensive, I have found this tractor at the net:

http://www.xt-tractor.com/usr_web/Product_put/More.asp?id=115

it has more or less the size of a lawn mowing tractor and would exactly fit my needs. The Problem is, noone knews the brand. Contacting importers in Russia and Romania has shown no results.

Is anybody here, which can help me, finding an importer or an user of the Xingtai?

Iｴm not sure, if it fits the US emission rules. Any answer would be helpfull.

 

[timwil]

that site was all in chinese, have trouble with arkansas english. is there an english site

 

[Mac624]

Hi, Timwil

I also had problems to read chinese with my Dueren-County german.

Infact the site isnｴt very helpfull by getting any informations.

But a click at the blue signs will show that:

http://www.xt-tractor.com/usr_web/Product_put/More.asp?id=115

Distributors site:

Welcome to CCF !

wasnｴt very helpfull,too.

So I tried TBN, maybe someone knews someone who knews someone, who could help me out.

A time ago I have been told, that they are for sale in Finland and Poland. But a friend in SF never has heard about it, neither has seen one and a search at google.pl didnｴt show a result.

 

[Bob Rooks]

What are your needs that a Cub Cadet can't perform? Seems they're about the same size.
If you (assuming you could) purchased that tractor, how would you plan on supporting it? Parts, service, etc.?

 

[Mac624]

Hi, Bob

You may not believe it, but the cub cadet is only known as a mowingtractor here in Germany. We donｴt have that large amount of small/Compact tractors here.

Gebrauchte Landtechnik bei tec24.com

click on right side "Sprache" for "english"
and then "Specialist Crop"

or take that one:
http://www1.traktorpool.de/suchen/ergebnis.php?anzeigen=1&start=0

so, if something is for sale, they are really expensive and 1 Euro is appr. 1,44$!

http://www.vertservice.net/secondhand/tractors

they have small Kubota/Iseki imported from Japan for sale.

Or watch german E-Bay
eBay: kleintraktor, traktor, kubota, iseki

 

[greg_g]

That X-name is not familiar to me either, sorry. But I'm thinking Bob may be referring to the recent marriage of convenience between Cub and Yanmar. See Cub Cadet and Yanmar have joined forces to create a new generation of compact tractors. But I have no idea if it's being market yet in Germany. But even if it is, I suspect that the currently strong Euro may make it an expensive purchase.

//greg//

 

[Mac624]

Rhe strong Euro makes anything cheaper, which must be paid in US$. so thatï½´s not the main problem.

We have relativly small spaces, so more or less a border for using a walkbehind or a small tractor.

This XT has maximum 18 hp and small measurements. I would choose the 16 hp, more then enough power, cause at the moment Iï½´m working with walkbehind tractors of maximum 8 hp.

Thanks all for Your suggestions and advices. Hopefully I will get some more input.

For those, which donï½´t know the link:

Feuerwehr Derichsweiler

VFD in Germany

Edit alert:

I have forgotten this:

I have get it offered for appr. 1600 US$, Side pto and beltdriven

 

[Bob Rooks]

That's an interesting tractor; the engine appears to be transverse mounted on a channel iron frame.

 

[greg_g]

That's an interesting tractor;

But for $1600, I'd hope to at least get a seat cushion and a front end alignment !!

//greg//

 

[Mac624]

Yep..I have made complainments about this gardenchair. The engine, is normally is used in walkbehindtractors, tranny is the same.

The tractor is very basic and for sure, easy to repair or to maintain. They are sold a lot to african countries. But the side pto and as there is not hook for a trailer makes it useless for me.

The frame is made from T-Steel. And it seems, that the frontaxle has no kingpin.

This guys:

CiÄ…gnik sam Diesel. (261760099) - Aukcje internetowe Allegro

ciÄ…gnik sam S-15 (262012352) - Aukcje internetowe Allegro

otoMoto - ogłoszenia motoryzacyjne, kup lub sprzedaj samochód i motocykl

are selling homemade (selfbuilded] tractors at polish auction side.

Maybe better buy one of these? ))

 

[Ranch_Hand_Supp]

It is interesting ...... thanks for shareing !

I don't think I have ever seen NEW tractor with front leaf springs..... have seen a few old ones with them.

No doubt easy to work on. If you can get parts and it will serve your purpose...... get ya one !.

Ronald
Ranch Hand Supply

 

[greg_g]

For what it's worth, ground clearance under the steering linkage on the first one looks like an accident just waiting to happen. Amd the exposed belt drives look quite dangerous on the second one. The third one just looks old and ugly. But for 836 Euros, it might just do what you want. But what is the final price after you get it home?

//greg//

 

[Mac624]

Final price, greg at 1st: I don´t think, that it would get much higher. Otherwise, You could be rigth, for 1100 Euro, it is not worth buying it.

If you mean the price for transportation: My wife is from Poland, and she has a small farm there. so a vistit to Poland would not be the biggest problem. We go to Pl 3-4 times a year, mostly with a 2 ton trailer hooked up, loaded with stuff for selling in Drezdenko county. At the way back home, the trailer always is empty. For sure: I don´t see any danger in the beltdrive.

Ranch Hand Supply

the problem is the side PTO, so I need special attachments for working with it. But the price is indeed very intresting. I would need to know, if someone in Germany would buy this tractor for appr. 1800 $.
The leafspring suspension we know here, but only one leafspring above the frontaxle at some older tractors.

I am not in the hurry for buying a small tractor, so time will give me the advance to find the one I need.

 

[Valmet20]

Hi,
I tried to replay earlier, but my reply did not appear. Hope I will not be repeating myself...
Anyway, I have owned a Xingtai xt180 for 6 months now. They are imported in Finland small scale. From mid -90ｴs there are according to a news article I read about 100 of these in use presently here. The single cylinder model engine is, I believe, based on Lister diesel design with some deviations. The long stroked diesel gives a nightmarish torgue, much bigger than you expected by the rated hp. The engine is thermosiphon coolled, with fan and radiator, but without water pump. There is a flywheel magneto with 2 coils. The simpless of design makes maintenance cheap and simple. I have only seen 2 used tractors for sale, so the users supposedly are satisfied with the performance of their tractors.
The workmansip is coarse, but then again these only cost less than half the price of Jinma for example. For the one who likes to tinker a bit with his tractor these are fun to work with. Electric connectors are abysmal and PTO shaft lever required som attention to work properly. Nothing difficult though, only fun with the benefit that one learns more by doing.

 

[Mac624]

Ok, I know that I have reanimatd an old thread, but I donｴt know why I should make a new one.

In July 2008 I ordered a Xingtai XT 180 which has 20 hp Yanmar clone 2cyl Diesel, a tiller, a plow and a flailmower which arrived in Rotterdam in beginning Oct. 2008

as You can see, I picked it up there by my own.

What we got is this:

It is very basic and we had to do a few refinements to get it work properly, but for a price of 2500 USD I have had it home and I have known before, that I donｴt get a perfect machine. Remember a 16 hp Kubota 1610 is appr. 10000 ?, which is 14000 US$!

I have done a few jobs with it since then and I canｴt complain about itｴs performance. It pulled a stucked 1610 with trailer out of a mudhole up in forest, whitout any 4wd. Of course...the 1610 is a nice tractor, but not for european pulling devices. As far as you wonna plow, till or mow with it, itｴs ok but pulling, no..not enough weight.

A minus is, that it has an awfull large turningradius and the handthrottle is hard to adjust.

Here is a pic with the tiller attached:

It was cleaned up this day, cause we wanted to put it on an exhibition for showing it, but my idea, to offer it for sale in Germany died, cause it has no roadregsitration (this tractors are also used for transportation in china and the XT rans appr. 20 mph).

On the tiller, we had a broken driveshaft, but it was welded by our own and work without any problems, now. The mower is outperforming good, but we donｴt have the work for it, we thought we could get. Anyways...itｴs all paid.

The plow was delivered in wrong share/frame dimensions and the company kept quiet about a discount. We constructed a new one from an old horsplow, so we can turn the earth.

Now it is standing in the shed, allover full of mud from forest and waiting for a cleanunp and work. As soon as it is dry, I wonna test the Cultivator, Junior made from an old and larger one he got for free.

I must state, that it makes no fun to deal with chinese, they are away, as soon as problems appear. Donｴt think the large importers (also the ones, which are around here) do have this problems, but as soon as you do only 1 Item you are alone in the rain. Buy it...and then leav me alone.

 

[milkman]

Mac, thanks for posting the pictures, they are interesting and I'd like to see more. I would like to see it operating the plow also. You know that we all like pictures. I'd like to hear more about the process of importing the machine, also where you're located.

 

[Mac624]

Sorry but at the moment I didnｴt have any pics, which are showing te Operation.

Importing process wasnｴt that complicated as I ordered CIF Rotterdam. It was a Risk to send Money in Advance, but it worked out well.

The forwarder in Rotterdam/the Netherlands made me a lot of probs, casue they told me, they canｴt do customs, when I pick up the Equipment by myself. So I spend a whole day to get the papers I need and arrived at the warehouse very late, missing another paper...but there I had no probs and got the crates loaded.

We are located in the Dueren County Rur-Eifel - Nature Experience - Home

Not far away from the border to the netherlands at Aachen

www.aachen.de - Current information

Itｴs nearer to Rotterdam and the Northern Sea,appr. 3hrs ride by truck, then going to Hamburg.

 

[Nuno]

Itｴs nearer to Rotterdam and the Northern Sea,appr. 3hrs ride by truck, then going to Hamburg.

Hey Mac,

thats right, but you can combine the pick up in Hamburg with a weekend trip to this beautiful City and visit the famous Reeperbahn

Best Regards
Nuno

 

[powerpace]

Chinese "Ya get's what you pays for." Back away quickly before something bad happens. Warranty? Parts? Service?

 

[Mac624]

Nee, Nuno..lass ma...ich war 3 Monate in Jenfeld beim Bund in der Grundausbildung (Lettow-Vorbeck-Kaserne...gibtｴs schon nicht mehr)...dat hat gereicht...Hamburg muﾟ nicht sein.

@powerpace

there is a one years warranty on the tractor and in the price I have posted there had been parts included.