Solar for sprinkler irrigation controller

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I've got a new site on my land that we're setting up for gardens and we want to put the watering on automatic valves with a multizone timer controller.

There's a ton of rock and other plantings between the garden site and the nearest power, plus it's about 150', so I'm considering using a solar panel system to run the controller right at the garden site to avoid trenching for power and all that (water is at the site already from a different direction).

The sprinkler controller I bought claims to use 0.2A @ 120V (presumably maximum; that's what 24W?). I can't find any reference to how much current a typical 24VAC sprinkler solenoid actually draws while in use, and this information would be good to have in sizing the solar setup.

I see mighty mule sells a 10W setup to run a gate opener (for "heavy gates opened many times a day") which is surprising to me - I would've thought that you'd need more than 10W for that, and I'm thinking that running a few solenoids would presumably not pull as much power as a motor?

I found this: https://www.amazon.com/Crystalline-Intelligent-Controller-Perfect-Maintainer/dp/B08RZ1Y7CJ/
(50W panel + charge controller); I have an older battery that still has a decent charge (just not enough to start a motorcycle), and can get a small inverter for $25, and this is all less than it would cost to run 12-wire sprinkler wire from the alternate location if I put the controller in the shop where there's power (and don't put the sprinkler wire in the ground... i don't like this idea you can see).

So questions:
1) how much power does a sprinkler controller running a few solenoids need?
2) site will get 5-6 hours of sun when it's needed (late spring through summer). Is 50w overkill?
3) will this charge a LifePO4 (shorai lithium) battery or should I use something else?
 
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There are sprinkler controllers "out there" that are battery powered by, for example, three or four AA batteries with option to add a proprietary solar panel.
The battery powered controllers output 24 volts DC rather than the normal AC and DC latching solenoids retrofit to the valves so they only draw power when turning on the valve.
Lots of good info on sprinklerwarehouse.com

Available in twelve station also:

Solar panel:
 
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I also have piped irrigation water in areas with no power. And no sprinkler control wire either.

I've used the Hunter Node battery irrigation timers (with Hunter valves) and they have worked well. They run on an 9v battery, and if you are worried about ever losing power you can snap in a second 9v battery as well. I've run them 3-4 years now without any problem or failure.

So far, I've just used the single output Nodes. One Node, wired to one sprinkler valve, very simple. I do have a 4-station Node, but that means pulling wire and I have never got around to doing that.

If you use these, double check one thing. Mine came with 24vac solenoids to actuate the valve. I needed to change these to 12V DC solenoids.
 
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Keep in mind if you are adding a possible fire hazard. LifePO4 is about as low risk as you get with lithium batteries. Other variants, not so much. I had a lithium battery start a wildfire a few years ago so I'm leery of those being unattended.
a LifePO4 (shorai lithium) battery or should I use something else?
 
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Keep in mind if you are adding a possible fire hazard. LifePO4 is about as low risk as you get with lithium batteries. Other variants, not so much. I had a lithium battery start a wildfire a few years ago so I'm leery of those being unattended.
Good to know, thanks.
I may have another older car battery (lead acid) that may have enough life for this application.

Another advantage as I see it of having the solar/battery/inverter setup is being able to plug in a phone to the inverter for music, though that's quite secondary.

I'm still curious about the actual 24vac solenoid power draw.
 
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Checked one of my Hunter valve solenoids and its showing 376 milliamps on 24 VAC while operating.
 
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Checked one of my Hunter valve solenoids and its showing 376 milliamps on 24 VAC while operating.

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Checked one of my Hunter valve solenoids and its showing 376 milliamps on 24 VAC while operating.

That may include the solenoid relay for the pump, however, which is rated at 125ma.
 
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Everything you wanted to know about sprinkler valve solenoids. :)
I believe it says about 200ma (0.2 amps) at about 3/4 of the way down the page.
Thanks!

I'll have to digest the pages about reactance etc but I think the main takeaway is that it takes 0.2A at 24VAC or about 5W to hold, so I can roughly guess I'm going to need about 20Wh for my purposes, and with a hypothetical 50% system efficiency my solar panel will need to provide 40Wh per day - easily done with a 10W panel, so using a 30W will provide a reasonable amount of overkill.
 

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