Solar Farm #2, dangers involved.

[RSKY]

There is a reason the companies installing these farms are leasing the land and not buying and owning. There have been several lawsuits by people who have property downstream from a solar farm and had their properties contaminated or otherwise ruined by the farms. In every case the landowner is ultimately responsible. So the companies get the Federal money, form a LLC to do the construction/management of the facility, take the money and leave the LLC in charge. The LLC will then do a sloppy cheap job of construction and get the project up and running. In the cases we have read about the outside engineering firms are not held liable because their plans were not following due to cost cutting by the LLC. Once a lawsuit is filed the parent company can point their finger at the LLC and say it is at fault and the company blameless. The LLC goes bankrupt and the land owner is left holding the bag.

 

[ddbackhoe]

How is that different from building a sports stadium or NASCAR Race track? If we use your logic, then we ought to be tearing down a bunch of stuff down in this country. Have you ever looked into the environmental impact of asphalt paved roads? I guess we should just go back to dirt roads again except that the dust control methods aren’t that friendly either.

OR, we could demolish unused buildings/facilities and repurpose them. The coal plants that have recently been shuttered come to mind. BUT, wait, most of those places have development value so we can’t use those.

 

[MossRoad]

There are creeks and streams running thru the area. As per good farming practice the land is not cultivated for about a hundred feet from a stream. Also fence rows between properties are wooded. There are areas in the 1200 acres consisting of 10-20 acres that have never been cleared and are wooded. But most of the area is currently in corn or soybeans or wheat that is being harvested with no-till beans being planted (sometimes the same day as wheat harvested) and a few acres in tobacco. This is not Kansas type flat land. It is gently rolling. And it is some of the best farm land in the area.

Thanks for clearing that up. All that was mentioned was clear cutting and made it sound like total area was woods.

 

[B7510HSD]

With modern design a nuclear plant is the best way.

Problem solved have them put in a nuclear plant instead of a solar farm I'm sure the neighbors would prefer this!

 

[turbo36]

There is a reason the companies installing these farms are leasing the land and not buying and owning. There have been several lawsuits by people who have property downstream from a solar farm and had their properties contaminated or otherwise ruined by the farms. In every case the landowner is ultimately responsible. So the companies get the Federal money, form a LLC to do the construction/management of the facility, take the money and leave the LLC in charge. The LLC will then do a sloppy cheap job of construction and get the project up and running. In the cases we have read about the outside engineering firms are not held liable because their plans were not following due to cost cutting by the LLC. Once a lawsuit is filed the parent company can point their finger at the LLC and say it is at fault and the company blameless. The LLC goes bankrupt and the land owner is left holding the bag.

Please provide a link supporting this argument.

Many firms prefer to lease land so that it doesn’t show up as an asset on their balance sheet, most public companies are judged by the return on their assets. A leased asset is considered a short term liability, whereas a purchased asset that is financed is shown as a long-term liability.

Another reason for leasing the land instead of selling it is that the current owners usually get a better yearly return then if they had sold the land out right, and had to pay the tax on the sale upfront. Unless you have first-hand knowledge of why it was leased as opposed to purchased, then your argument is simply conjecture.

 

[5030]

Yeah get ready my a$$….I’m not too worried about that.
99.9% of the food we grow is still grown on US soil outdoors.

...and over 75% of the urea based fertilizer for that food comes from Ukraine

 

[5030]

One thing that people loose sight of (but here in our Township we didn't) is..

They are not solar or wind farms at all.

They are industrial installations.

 

[ruffdog]

Oh no...it is for profit? Like the shipping, rail, mining, auto, tourism, utilities, paper, food, entertainment, lumber, music, food, equipment industries have always been? Why do we need more electricity? One growing industry uses a HUGE amount of power and that is for data crunching computers. They are laughing all the way to the bank too.

 

[5030]

Why do we need more electricity?

To power all the toaster cars the gummit is shoving up your arse of course.

 

[ruffdog]

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