skid steers?

[kosta]

Dear X, thanks for your input but I must you a few questions
1) do you own a piece of equipment?
2) have you ever spent a day on a CAT or NH or Deere
3) where do you live in Ill
4) You have not said what I need to hear
5) Who pays you, you are like everywhere!!! Do Own a farm, ranch, or business

X in all do respect you have very nice thoughs and i have looked at all sites and threads you suggested but man WHATS THE DEAL??
Gus
I have real issues to deal with

 

[johnno]

Don't attack X, he has forgotten more then most can ever learn. On all sites, plowing, heavy equipment, etc, he is the most respect skid steer guy there, the one everyone looks to, he is in college i believe but he is an invaluable asset to these internet websites.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

Haha, thanks johnno... don't worry about it. kosta -- and any user -- is entitled to say what he or she thinks. But kosta, to answer your questions...

1) No I do not.
2) I have spent some time on Cat and Case; looking to spend time on a Bobcat sometime soon.
3) Urbana
4) I'm not sure what you wanted to hear.. I apologize for that. I thought you wanted some input on NH vs. Cat -- and if I didn't quite give you that, I apologize.
5) No one pays me -- I have no source of income. I do not own a farm, ranch, or business. I'm on the different forums because I'm interested in what other people have to say about their equipment. I'm a Mechanical Engineering student and love construction equipment (and commercial aviation) and these forums are the only place outside of visiting construction sites (not time-effective) to learn stuff. None of the moderators/webmasters pays me if that was your question.

What's the deal -- ? Not sure... if I said something offensive, let me know and I'll try not to do that in the future.

If you'd rather I not reply, that's fine. My position and experience doesn't really allow me to talk in concrete experiences because I don't have any.

Respectfully,

Xing

 

[wroughtn_harv]

I think you might have found an imaginary line we don't usually cross.

We don't attack those who willingly share their knowledge if not their experience.

Yours is the first attack of this poster I've seen on three forums. And undeserved.

If he was to cut back on his posting because you offended him a lot of his fans would be real disappointed in you.

 

[kosta]

X and to all others.
I am apparently not that good at writing and expressing myself.
I had no intention to attack or impune X or anyone else.
I have read most of the threads that you all and X has suggested. In one of those he mentioned his Practical in experience with equipment_ at least that was what came across. He also mentioned his going to school.
I just wanted to know where he was coming from, all I was trying to understand is given those statments how much practical experience does that translate into?
I appreciate everyones thoughts and scoulding but, honestly I apologize if I offended anyone or the sprit of this august forum.
Perhaps I was hot because a moose ran through one of the fences and I had to round up 50 head.
Again my intention was not malicious but as I reread it that sure my of come off that way
Thanks

 

[Tigerotor77W]

No offense taken, kosta. You had reason to question my background and I respect that. Let's get back to your original question... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[kosta]

Good, X
Just for clarity I live in a state with more cows than people, although beef prices are up its a tough business where mistakes can be unforgiving. I am considering a machine and attachments that will probably be about $40,000. Thats alot for me. I have not really spent much time on these sites so I take things as face value, but, I also need to know where this info is coming from.
I apologize for any insult or manner of presentation. But I do not apologize for asking the questions I can't.
Actually just tried the NH alittle low, view not as good as I had hoped good power.
Im going to try the CAT this weekend
Thanks

 

[40Kchicks]

It's great to get lots of information about these machines but testing them out is really the best way to go. When I was shopping I was lucky that my deere dealer and CAT dealer both brought out machines to my farm at the same time. After driving them side by side I was able to pick my favorite. It was kind of funny to see the deere salesman's reaction when he pulled on my farm and saw the CAT sitting there. That salesman was really nice and very interested in my farm operation. He is now selling Kubota's and vineyard equipment.

So what models are you looking at. I was just wondering because 40K is a lot for a skid steer. What attachments are you getting for it?

Eric

 

[kosta]

I tried the NH 190
ans BOBCAt A300- a construction equipment friend convinced me to try this, I want to try the CAT this up coming week, just waiting for them to bring it.
The machines new are about $32,000, I do want a cab the only question is if I should get the high flow. I have to think about this.
Where I am it is not that close to places that have a lot of construction equipment and thus would be a hump to travel.
This is AG country. So
post-hole digger post putter inner- joke
hammer
tooth bucket
snow plow
tree spade
these are for sure

 

[gates]

None of the attachments you are looking at require hi-flow. If you are not going to use it why buy it. Hi-flow is used for cold planers and some snow blowers, some of which can be ran on standard flow.

 

[jmc]

With all the hydraulic systems I'm aware of, you're pumping the fluid back to the reservoir whether you need it or not. I think with the high flow system, you just pump at lot more. I don't know how much extra fuel that takes.

Will you have a tractor in addition to this skid steer? Don't know how much land you have but traveling very far in a skid steer can be slow and bumpy.

 

[gates]

It is not either regular or hi-flow. Regular is standard issue. Hi-flow is an added set of quick couplers for hi-flow only. Usually this is an expensive option.

 

[jmc]

So the question is, does the separate high flow pump also run whether you use it or not?

 

[gates]

The pumps are continously in operation, in use or not.

 

[kosta]

Thank you, I should have added Grouser tracks to put over the wheels as needed. We have seasonal wet and obvious snow so I would just prefer the option.
Yes as far as the high flow Im not sure it would be necessary, I am lead to understand that besides a snow blower it would save additional time when breaking rocks. Again I do not know if this warrants the price or is even that much of an advantage.
I just purchased an adjoining piece of property that has several rocks I could not bull doze off, so I do need to break them down( ice bergs man).
Any thoughs on the additional high flow would help also the best means for scraping off the road periodically.
Yes I have regular tractors for the fields the Skid would be for specific jobs and mostly to better manage the property and around the buildings, corrals etc. Im trying to consolidate equipment needs.
Thanks you all for your experience and suggestions

 

[gates]

As for the ice bergs, as you call em, it depends on how big. For scraping the road that is what the front bucket is for. Hi-flow is not a requirement to run a breaker, its an option. Been breaking for many years with standard flow machines. The grousers are very aggresive, we use loegering tracks.

 

[kosta]

The rocks are large, wide and deep. When I say we could not push them out that was witha D8 CAt. They are upper points sticking out.
I never heard of loeger tracks could you explain those to me
and how they differ from growlers

 

[gates]

The tracks are from Loegering Egineering. The tracks will not mark up concreted or paved surfaces. Great company have several sets of their tracks. Grouser tracks are fine tracks but they are very aggressive. They will leave marks on hard surfaces. Might not be of concern to you but my customers are not very appreciative of there asphalt and concrete being marked up. Now back to the icebergs, a d-8 is not made to dig up rocks. I can understand it not being able to push them.
You need either a backhoe or the weapon of choice, a trackhoe (large version of backhoe) to take care of those bergs. If that does not work bring in the big guns, the demolition man, and have him blast them (pretty cool its like a mini earthquake).

 

[kosta]

Thanks, I will check out the sites, I dont care about customers just which is best.
I appreciate your suggestions but I dont want to dig up the rocks they are very large and would have to put them some place. I would rather bust the tops off, from experience up here that would be less trouble than trying to fill up the holes.
Thanks