Should all cities ban cell phones while driving? Here is some news about this subject below,
http://tinyurl.com/jozzr
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Should all cities ban cell phones while driving?
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Got no problem with it here... As much driving as I do and calls I get or make durring the day, I can definityl see the danger... Personally, since I got my handsfree, I dont even like to pick up the handset while driving anymore since its such a distraction.. I would like to see more attention payed to drivers actions while driving than seatbelts... Here in Atlanta, you regularly see someone driving while applying make up, reading the newspaper(or book), talking on the phone, or whatever...
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Should all cities ban cell phones while driving?)</font>My thinking on this subject is rather fluid. While cell phones are ubiquitous and can cause problems, there are many situations that can cause problems when driving. Do we really need laws specifically targeted to each problem?
Outlaw smoking in cars. Losing the ember is quite a distraction. Don't ask me how I know.
Changing radio channels can cause a problem if you look down at just the wrong time. Don't ask me how I know.
Eating a Whopper can be dangerous. Driving home from work while tired is bad. Again, don't ask how I know.
Things I have noticed others doing include reading (on the highway!), consulting maps and kissing. Women applying makeup. Writing notes.
Outlaw smoking in cars. Losing the ember is quite a distraction. Don't ask me how I know.
Changing radio channels can cause a problem if you look down at just the wrong time. Don't ask me how I know.
Eating a Whopper can be dangerous. Driving home from work while tired is bad. Again, don't ask how I know.
Things I have noticed others doing include reading (on the highway!), consulting maps and kissing. Women applying makeup. Writing notes.
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One of the few consistancies I've noticed while driving is that when you come up behind a car that is going well under the speed limit, that person is on the phone. Doesn't matter if it's a 5 lane freeway or a country road, they are highly distracted and causing problems for others.
No other legal actity in a car seems to have this same effect on people, and what's really bad is they have no idea of what's going on. I bet every person who's distracted on the phone and causeing traffic to back up isn't even aware of it.
Eddie
No other legal actity in a car seems to have this same effect on people, and what's really bad is they have no idea of what's going on. I bet every person who's distracted on the phone and causeing traffic to back up isn't even aware of it.
Eddie
NH enacted a law pertaining to "distracted driving" a few years ago. I'm not sure how often it's used or how effective it's been.
Prior to a couple of days of rain, we had some very dry conditions with brush fires in the news on tv, radio and in the paper, yet I see people (many) throwing lit cigarettes out there car window all the time. It doesn't seem that we've been able to acheive any more common sense, higher intelligence or a greater sense of awareness through legislation. Though they never stop trying.
Prior to a couple of days of rain, we had some very dry conditions with brush fires in the news on tv, radio and in the paper, yet I see people (many) throwing lit cigarettes out there car window all the time. It doesn't seem that we've been able to acheive any more common sense, higher intelligence or a greater sense of awareness through legislation. Though they never stop trying.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I see people (many) throwing lit cigarettes out there car window )</font>
I too see this all the time, but I have only ever seen one brush fire beside the highway. Not saying it's right, just making the observation.
I believe that we should endeavor to enforce the laws already on the books instead of making up new ones that will only be enforced until it's out of the headlines.
I too see this all the time, but I have only ever seen one brush fire beside the highway. Not saying it's right, just making the observation.
I believe that we should endeavor to enforce the laws already on the books instead of making up new ones that will only be enforced until it's out of the headlines.
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<font color="blue">( I see people (many) throwing lit cigarettes out there car window all the time. ) </font>
How can some people be such pigs? My drive to/from work each day, I must see this happen 5-10 times. When I finish a can of soda, I don't just throw my can out the window.
I would love to hear from a smoker who thinks throwing their butts out the window (or on the sidewalk, etc.) is ok, and their reasons why they think so. Who knows, maybe they just throw their butts on the floor at home too.
How can some people be such pigs? My drive to/from work each day, I must see this happen 5-10 times. When I finish a can of soda, I don't just throw my can out the window.
I would love to hear from a smoker who thinks throwing their butts out the window (or on the sidewalk, etc.) is ok, and their reasons why they think so. Who knows, maybe they just throw their butts on the floor at home too.
flwiii
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Yes, I agree, there are many ways to be distracted while driving. Cell phones aren't the only culprits.
Maybe they could do like I think Japan has done. They have developed jamming systems in areas that they don't want cell phone use. When you enter these areas, you cell phone won't work. Seems a little abrupt, but it works.
<font color="red"> Oh by the way, I also am anxiously awaiting the next random question from Terry43 </font>
Maybe they could do like I think Japan has done. They have developed jamming systems in areas that they don't want cell phone use. When you enter these areas, you cell phone won't work. Seems a little abrupt, but it works.
<font color="red"> Oh by the way, I also am anxiously awaiting the next random question from Terry43 </font>
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="red"> Oh by the way, I also am anxiously awaiting the next random question from Terry43 </font> )</font>L.O.L. After the second such comment, I had to do a little research. Now I understand.
To quote a sitcom, not that's there's anything wrong with that.
End hijack. Now back to our normally scheduled program about cell phones......
To quote a sitcom, not that's there's anything wrong with that.
End hijack. Now back to our normally scheduled program about cell phones......
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( No other legal actity in a car seems to have this same effect on people, and what's really bad is they have no idea of what's going on.)</font>
Actually if you look at the insurance actuarial tables for accidents, you will see that people who eat in their cars, put on their makeup, read, feed their children, or talk all have much higher accident rates than people who don't do those things. Even people who use "hands free" cell phones have high accident rates.
The reality is you should sit down, shut up and drive. And if you drive slow in the left lane, yield right like the law says you should!
Actually if you look at the insurance actuarial tables for accidents, you will see that people who eat in their cars, put on their makeup, read, feed their children, or talk all have much higher accident rates than people who don't do those things. Even people who use "hands free" cell phones have high accident rates.
The reality is you should sit down, shut up and drive. And if you drive slow in the left lane, yield right like the law says you should!
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( No other legal actity in a car seems to have this same effect on people, and what's really bad is they have no idea of what's going on.)</font>
Actually if you look at the insurance actuarial tables for accidents, you will see that people who eat in their cars, put on their makeup, read, feed their children, or talk all have much higher accident rates than people who don't do those things. Even people who use "hands free" cell phones have high accident rates.
The reality is you should sit down, shut up and drive. And if you drive slow in the left lane, yield right like the law says you should! )</font>
It isn't the use of the phone per se, either handheld or hand free. It is the mere act of conducting an extended conversation (extended = more than a few seconds) that is the distraction. Equating a CP conversation with tuning a radio is apples and oranges. One takes a few seconds the other doesn't. While both are distractions, the CP is by far a bigger one.
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Actually if you look at the insurance actuarial tables for accidents, you will see that people who eat in their cars, put on their makeup, read, feed their children, or talk all have much higher accident rates than people who don't do those things. Even people who use "hands free" cell phones have high accident rates.
The reality is you should sit down, shut up and drive. And if you drive slow in the left lane, yield right like the law says you should! )</font>
It isn't the use of the phone per se, either handheld or hand free. It is the mere act of conducting an extended conversation (extended = more than a few seconds) that is the distraction. Equating a CP conversation with tuning a radio is apples and oranges. One takes a few seconds the other doesn't. While both are distractions, the CP is by far a bigger one.
Harry K
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<font color="blue"> ... anxiously awaiting the next random question from Terry43 </font>
It might be more fun to guess what the next question will be! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In all seriousness, I get annoyed at distracted cell phone users who don't know their surroundings while they are on the phone. They miss stop signs and traffic lights, they unknowingly weave between lanes, and they speed up and slow down to the point where it disrupts the traffic around them.
I'm not sure if passing more laws is the right answer, but it wouldn't bother me any if the use of cell phones were banned while driving. People were able to get by okay before cell phones, so they should be able to refrain from talking long enough to pay attention while driving.
It might be more fun to guess what the next question will be! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
In all seriousness, I get annoyed at distracted cell phone users who don't know their surroundings while they are on the phone. They miss stop signs and traffic lights, they unknowingly weave between lanes, and they speed up and slow down to the point where it disrupts the traffic around them.
I'm not sure if passing more laws is the right answer, but it wouldn't bother me any if the use of cell phones were banned while driving. People were able to get by okay before cell phones, so they should be able to refrain from talking long enough to pay attention while driving.
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<font color="blue"> How can some people be such pigs? My drive to/from work each day, I must see this happen 5-10 times. When I finish a can of soda, I don't just throw my can out the window. </font>
The cigarette butts out the car window really annoy me, but the soda cans and McDonalds bags annoy me worse! The ditch in front of my house gets filled with beer bottles and fast food containers in no time flat from people who throw things out their car windows as they drive by. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
The cigarette butts out the car window really annoy me, but the soda cans and McDonalds bags annoy me worse! The ditch in front of my house gets filled with beer bottles and fast food containers in no time flat from people who throw things out their car windows as they drive by. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
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It isn't the use of the phone per se, either handheld or hand free. It is the mere act of conducting an extended conversation (extended = more than a few seconds) that is the distraction. Equating a CP conversation with tuning a radio is apples and oranges. One takes a few seconds the other doesn't. While both are distractions, the CP is by far a bigger one )</font>
Harry, you get no arguement from me that tuning a radio is less of a distraction than talking on a cell phone, but then again I never suggested they were comparable.
But you are wrong about the duration of the call as being an implied cause of an accident. The data that I was shown indicates that a high percentage of the accidents occur during that acts of dialing the phone or terminating the call. And those accident rates are not significantly different than when people take their eyes off the road to turn around to feed their toddler in the rear seat, or to reach down to grab that last french fry out of the bottom of the bag next to them.
It isn't the use of the phone per se, either handheld or hand free. It is the mere act of conducting an extended conversation (extended = more than a few seconds) that is the distraction. Equating a CP conversation with tuning a radio is apples and oranges. One takes a few seconds the other doesn't. While both are distractions, the CP is by far a bigger one )</font>
Harry, you get no arguement from me that tuning a radio is less of a distraction than talking on a cell phone, but then again I never suggested they were comparable.
But you are wrong about the duration of the call as being an implied cause of an accident. The data that I was shown indicates that a high percentage of the accidents occur during that acts of dialing the phone or terminating the call. And those accident rates are not significantly different than when people take their eyes off the road to turn around to feed their toddler in the rear seat, or to reach down to grab that last french fry out of the bottom of the bag next to them.
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You can't imagine how many beer cans and soda cans get thrown in my ditch!! Not by me either, I guess people don't want an open container in their car till they open up the next beer. I do think cell phones should be banned while driving but I doubt it will ever happen.
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As long as people use handsfree items.. I don't see a problem with talking and driving... If you ban talking on a hands free cell phone while driving.. you might as well ban 'talking' while driving.. if that's the case.. you don't need a car with more than 1 seat.
I for one.. don't need or want the government to pass legislation to cover every single part of my life... Pretty soon we won't have any unencumberd rights or liberties left.
"Those who trade freedom for security soon have neither... " as said best by the great Ben franklin
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I for one.. don't need or want the government to pass legislation to cover every single part of my life... Pretty soon we won't have any unencumberd rights or liberties left.
"Those who trade freedom for security soon have neither... " as said best by the great Ben franklin
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These countries already have various restrictions about talking in the phone while driving.
Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherland, Austria, Portugal, Spain, Denmark and Norway. I'm sure I have forgotten some countries.
Portugal has taken it even one step further and banned all talking in the phone while driving. Handsfree or not. This goes only for the driver of course.
Not sure about it, but I think the fine for talking while driving (handsfree is legal) is somewhere around 200 usd in Norway.
It's not a police-priority to fine people for these things. Very few are caught and all the time you can see people driving around holding one of their hands next to the head.
The solution?
- Tell the caller that you will call back once you have stopped your car?
- Don't hang up when finished. Let the person in the other end hang up. (But what if that's a driver too?)
I don't know. Guess it's a question of convinience versus how many deaths / damages caused by drivers not focused on the important things while driving.
Belgium, Germany, France, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherland, Austria, Portugal, Spain, Denmark and Norway. I'm sure I have forgotten some countries.
Portugal has taken it even one step further and banned all talking in the phone while driving. Handsfree or not. This goes only for the driver of course.
Not sure about it, but I think the fine for talking while driving (handsfree is legal) is somewhere around 200 usd in Norway.
It's not a police-priority to fine people for these things. Very few are caught and all the time you can see people driving around holding one of their hands next to the head.
The solution?
- Tell the caller that you will call back once you have stopped your car?
- Don't hang up when finished. Let the person in the other end hang up. (But what if that's a driver too?)
I don't know. Guess it's a question of convinience versus how many deaths / damages caused by drivers not focused on the important things while driving.
Hi, Here is some more information on cellphones in your state. I got this from a policeman.
http://tinyurl.com/zlxq9
http://tinyurl.com/zlxq9
flwiii
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Just drive down Interstate 17 between Phoenix and Black Canyon City. There are several good burns up the middle divider from tossed cigarettes that started the brush on fire.
