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Are we all looking forward to autonomous semi-trucks? They’ll soon be here. I wonder if they are going to get their own driving lane. I suppose they will run 24-7? These are the electric models to be released soon.
I think they'd have to give up half their trailer capacity, for the batteries needed...
 
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Just hope the driver does an actual walk around before taking off
 
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I think they'd have to give up half their trailer capacity, for the batteries needed...
Starting out, its all going to be short haul that's going back to the same warehouse every night IMO, long haul will take a lot more infrastructure.
A chain near me is exploring that option:
https://www.wegmans.com/news-media/articles/nikola-and-fleet-sustainability said:

Exploring Electrification to Understand the Next Generation Truck​

09/13/2022 · Reducing our Carbon Footprint
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For years, Wegmans has been focused on improving the efficiency and sustainability of its fleet. What that looks like and how we get there continues to evolve as advancements in technology become available for testing, and ultimately brought to market.
The fleet and sustainability teams, once focused on diesel efficiency, now have their eyes set on diesel elimination, a goal made possible by the advent of new technologies. In the past two years, they’ve made huge strides by replacing diesel tractors with compressed natural gas ones and transitioning to fully electric yard trucks.
“Eliminating diesel is our goal for today, but we’re also looking to the future and our ultimate goal of operating a carbon-free fleet. We’re likely a decade or more away from being able to achieve that goal; the technology just isn’t where it needs to be to do the job we need it to do,” explains Matt Harris, Wegmans sustainability manager for energy and fleet technology. “But that doesn’t mean we just sit back and wait. We’re constantly working with technology providers and trialing new technologies to understand what they can and can’t do, and to be part of the innovation process, helping to ensure the technology is headed in a direction that works for real-world applications.”
With that future goal in mind, the team is currently exploring electrification through a trial of the Nikola Tre battery-electric vehicle (BEV) demonstration unit. Trialing new technologies helps the team understand the capabilities and reliability of the technology, the infrastructure needed to operate the vehicle, and how it might fit into our fleet in the future. It also helps them understand if that technology can help them achieve their three main goals – reduce our carbon footprint, reduce noise pollution, and improve safety.
When it comes to measuring the sustainability of a class-8 electric truck, there’s a lot to take into consideration – from the fossil fuels needed to produce and properly dispose of the batteries, to the strain on the electric supply grid – and a lot of questions that still need answers.
“The pilot is all about learning,” says Harris. “We need to understand electrification in order to understand the next generation of trucks – trucks that achieve a lower carbon intensity score than their diesel counterparts through a combination of technologies and the use of cleaner fuels. Those are the trucks that will allow us to bridge the 10-to-20-year gap between now and when a cost-effective, alternative truck is readily available in the marketplace and can truly do what a diesel-powered truck does today – without compromise.”
While a fleet of fully electric trucks isn’t on the horizon, a successful pilot could result in the addition of one, or even a few, electric trucks to our fleet.
“It’s all about the application of the technology,” explains Harris. “During the pilot, we’re using the Nikola demo unit for shuttle work – moving product around Rochester and mixing in a few store deliveries. If the truck performs well, helps us achieve our goals, and makes sense for our business, then there could be a spot for it in our fleet.”


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I think they'd have to give up half their trailer capacity, for the batteries needed...

The Tesla semi is an interesting situation. Best estimate now is that the batteries weigh about 10,000 lbs on the 500 mile range model. Sounds like a lot, but subtract the diesel drive train weight (probably at least 4000 lbs) and add the 2000 lb capacity bonus the DOT gives electric trucks because the added weight is in the tractor, and it's not much of a penalty.
 
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Starting out, its all going to be short haul that's going back to the same warehouse every night IMO, long haul will take a lot more infrastructure.
A chain near me is exploring that option:



Aaron Z
Interesting and ironic cause that sounds like what battery powered vehicle manufacturers tried doing in urban areas over 100 yrs ago when there was a battle over steam, ice, and battery power. Ice won obviously but makes sense with modern technology.
 
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They should have a considerably harder driving test to pass to begin with. All you have to do here is drive around the block without wreaking and you pass.
That sounds like my farm tractor exam at age 16. At age 18 you didnt need a license.

Since a year or three there is a real tractor drivers license which takes practical lessons and exams (remember they drive 50kmh and often 50 ton GVW here and often take part in city traffic ) and the pool of silage hauling personnell is quickly depleting, causing large contractors to solely focus on earthmoving during business hours, leaving silage drawing at night to the farmers who go contracting with a few friends at night...
 

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