Comparison Selling my tractor...but what is it?

[Dixie379]

So I've come on some pretty tough times...decided to sell my lil tractor. BUT do I list it in MF listings or Hinomoto? From the pics, it's a Massey Ferguson 205, but technically it's a Hinomoto, I think. I know people shy away from the 'gray market' tractors, from what i've learned, it seems it's because lack of information or access to info maybe. I don't want to deceive any potential buyers by any means, but don't want to seem untruthful neither...and if I list as MF and put a note about the Hinomoto, or list as Hinomoto with the MF decals it looks confusing?

 

[k0ua]

So I've come on some pretty tough times...decided to sell my lil tractor. BUT do I list it in MF listings or Hinomoto? From the pics, it's a Massey Ferguson 205, but technically it's a Hinomoto, I think. I know people shy away from the 'gray market' tractors, from what i've learned, it seems it's because lack of information or access to info maybe. I don't want to deceive any potential buyers by any means, but don't want to seem untruthful neither...and if I list as MF and put a note about the Hinomoto, or list as Hinomoto with the MF decals it looks confusing?

Says Massey Ferguson right on it.. far as I am concerned it is a Massey Ferguson.. heck a lot of the smaller New Hollands. were made by Shibarau.. so are they Shibarau's.. most people think of them as New Hollands.. My Kioti is a Daedong.. ..some JD are pure Yanmar... some Mahindra are Mitsubishi.. and so on and so on.

James K0UA

 

[Dixie379]

Ok. Thanks! That was kind of my thinking. I listed as MF, Had a guy come look at it and i had even mentioned on the phone that it may be considered a hinomoto...he showed up and just come off the deep end yelling it's a p.o.s. gray market bla bla bla. I got a lil hot tempered and asked him just what he thought I meant by Hinomoto, he blushed and got in his truck and left. I just don't want to be advertising and getting A-holes like that guy every time Thought maybe I missed something, but now I think I see he was just a know-it-all or so he thought.

 

[k0ua]

Ok. Thanks! That was kind of my thinking. I listed as MF, Had a guy come look at it and i had even mentioned on the phone that it may be considered a hinomoto...he showed up and just come off the deep end yelling it's a p.o.s. gray market bla bla bla. I got a lil hot tempered and asked him just what he thought I meant by Hinomoto, he blushed and got in his truck and left. I just don't want to be advertising and getting A-holes like that guy every time Thought maybe I missed something, but now I think I see he was just a know-it-all or so he thought.

Just part of the selling something deal.. some people are just not nice. I say it is a Massey.

James K0UA

 

[Mike476]

Sorry to hear you've got to let it go but I agree, massey it is.

 

[mack101]

The guy who approached you was not educated that well about compact tractors. Green tractors are Yanmars, most red ones now are Isekis, Kubotas are.. Kubotas. etc etc. Nice Massey you got there

Also, tractordata.com says it's manufactured by Toyosha? Is there a plate that gives info about the manufacturer on the tractor?

TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 205 tractor information

 

[MapleLeafFarmer]

is the MF stickers on the tractor when new / manufactured?

Or were the orignal stickers removed and MF stickers added later on?

 

[Dixie379]

When I got it, I used tractordata and what i think would be serial number (00209) so now I've just been listing as 1978 MF 205. It only had 14 hours on it according to gauge and looked like it just come off the factory line so i just took it as a blessing and picked it up.
With the low hours now, seems like the only people calling are the skeptics. So far I've been accused of swapping out gauges, modifying photos (duh..just come look at tractor in person lol), and they all seem to have the attitude of something's not right, but would rather send nasty emails/calls than to actually believe something so cute exists? :dance1:

As far as the decals, the only thing i've ever changed was fluids, and added a lil toolbox, and the suicide knob(steering). It sits the way i got it maybe with a lil extra dust and dirt on it i actually lost my temper a lil bit with one guy and asked him if i beat the p*ss out of it and let the hours run up if he'd buy it..."at least it would look more legit that way" he said... and here I thought less hours was a good thing? lol

On the plus side, a massey collector called this a.m. and wants to at least just see it. i didn't mention the possible gray market, actually, i hadn't had much coffee and sort of played dumb, but he's not too far away so I'm actually hoping he'll come take a look so I can learn something...!


P.S. I actually sat and compared a ton of tractor pics...thought I could at least find a hinomoto model or something, someone said something like the E18D was close.. the MF 205 is exactly what mine looks like...hate to do it, but I'm taking the female selling approach to this and just sticking with MF and playing dumb, losing cell phone signal when I hear that mockery in their voice!

 

[bullbreaker]

I cound'nt tell you what it is, but I think most grey market tractors don't come with ROPS like I see on yours. Just a thought.

Boone

 

[Dixie379]

The ROPS is one of the things that made me believe it was MF when I first picked it up. (Uncle had told me it was a giveaway he'd never seen much for safety on grey markets) And the photos I've found on the net over the last couple years I've owned mine, the only ones that match are the MF. Others (like hinomoto etc) seem to have a very different hood/front bumper. Just hoping it and my truck sell soon, won't do me much good to still have a tractor and no animals left to use it for :confused3: