selector valve

[dirt clod]

I bought this one:
Surplus Center Item Detail

Specs are:
12 VDC TRIPLE SELECTOR VALVE
New, triple selector valve originally built for use on CATERPILLAR skid-steer loaders. Part number 155-5569-GP04. Allows one directional control valve to control three separate circuits. First circuit is prioritized so first solenoid must be powered to turn first circuit off. Second or third solenoids must be powered to select their circuits after first circuit is turned off. Check valve in "A" port in the third circuit. Restrictor fitting (0.045" orifice) installed in the P1 inlet port can easily be removed, restricts flow to all three "A" ports. Wire leads with DEUTSCH DT04-2P weatherpac connectors. First selector has a built-in restriction to restrict flow to the actuator (example: for use with a grapple).

SPECIFICATIONS12 GPM max
3,000 PSI max
12 VDC
1.50 Amps per solenoid
Ports SAE 6
Size 5-1/2" x 1-3/4" x 5-1/4"
Shpg. 10 lbs.

I did not get a drawing as to how the ports flow. I thought it would come with this. Called the tech line, guy said this would work well for my application.

Ports on the end are marked P1 and P2. Ports on side are listed 1st row top is C1B bottom is C1A. Next row is C2B and C2B. Last row is top C3b and bottom C3a.

My thoughts are remove restrictor in P1 inlet.
Since the 1st selector has restictor I guess I will have to use it for grapple even though it is prioritized. Then the 1st and 2nd solenoid will need to be powered for curl and power released for grapple. Seems backwards but is there any other way with this valve? Or is there some way to remove restrictor for 1st set of ports?

Would it be correct to hookup as follows:
from loader valve curl up to P1, dump to P2
C1A to grapple open, C1B to grapple close
C2A to curl bucket, C2B to dump bucket
and then ports C3A and C3B can be used at a later date for a top cyclinder
for rear 3 point.

Sorry for the long post. I know theres many of you on here that knows this stuff, Please advise if I'm looking at this wrong are if theres a better way to install.

 

[dirt clod]

Forgot..... I did buy some plugs to plug the 2 ports I would not be useing now.

 

[kennyd]

There is at least one other person who has purchased this valve, but I have not heard if they installed it yet. I am not familiar enough with it yet to help you to much...

It seems fairly straightforward hooking up the hoses, but the electric may prove to be a PITA...

 

[dirt clod]

The electric is nothing. It is just 3 coils with a hot and ground wire each.
You said the hose hookups was straight forward. Is the way I was listing correct?

 

[dirt clod]

Anybody hooked up one yet??????

 

[kennyd]

The electric is nothing. It is just 3 coils with a hot and ground wire each.
You said the hose hookups was straight forward. Is the way I was listing correct?

Yes, I meant keeping track of the 3 switches to get the right function...

They way you listed the hose connections seem fine-but I would sue like to see a schematic of that valve.

 

[BarryinMN]

Check valve in "A" port in the third circuit. Restrictor fitting (0.045" orifice) installed in the P1 inlet port can easily be removed, restricts flow to all three "A" ports.

This text leads me to think the valve is 3 individual 1 way ports.

P1 oil input
P2 oil return to tank

A1 grapple close > B1 exhaust

A2 grapple open > B2 exhaust

Don't see how it works without a diverter - but if the manufacturer says it works - the text must be wrong & the valves in reality are 2 way.

Can you hook up some 12v wire & use an air compressor to blow some air thru and test for 2 way valve action??

Simpler than hooking up a bunch of hyd hoses.

 

[dirt clod]

BarryinMN this is a selector valve not a control valve. It would just be selecting which cyclinder gets the flow from my factory joy stick.For a 2 way cyclinder there would be only 2 flow circuits to work with a open and a close. A open circuit control valve would also need a dump or return to tank.

Hadnt thought about useing air to check, might work?

 

[dirt clod]

I think I may have it now. P1 restricts all A ports so P2 would be for flow on B ports. i would think the flow would be:

Coil 1 off P1 to C1A, P2 to C1b
Coil 1 powered Circuit 1 off other circuits can be used

Coil 1 and 2 on P1 to C2A, P2 to C2B

Coil 1 and 3 on P1 to C3A, P2 to C3B

 

[YM-135trac]

I bought this one:
Surplus Center Item Detail

Specs are:
12 VDC TRIPLE SELECTOR VALVE
New, triple selector valve originally built for use on CATERPILLAR skid-steer loaders. Part number 155-5569-GP04. Allows one directional control valve to control three separate circuits. First circuit is prioritized so first solenoid must be powered to turn first circuit off. Second or third solenoids must be powered to select their circuits after first circuit is turned off. Check valve in "A" port in the third circuit. Restrictor fitting (0.045" orifice) installed in the P1 inlet port can easily be removed, restricts flow to all three "A" ports. Wire leads with DEUTSCH DT04-2P weatherpac connectors. First selector has a built-in restriction to restrict flow to the actuator (example: for use with a grapple).

SPECIFICATIONS12 GPM max
3,000 PSI max
12 VDC
1.50 Amps per solenoid
Ports SAE 6
Size 5-1/2" x 1-3/4" x 5-1/4"
Shpg. 10 lbs.

I did not get a drawing as to how the ports flow. I thought it would come with this. Called the tech line, guy said this would work well for my application.

Ports on the end are marked P1 and P2. Ports on side are listed 1st row top is C1B bottom is C1A. Next row is C2B and C2B. Last row is top C3b and bottom C3a.

My thoughts are remove restrictor in P1 inlet.
Since the 1st selector has restictor I guess I will have to use it for grapple even though it is prioritized. Then the 1st and 2nd solenoid will need to be powered for curl and power released for grapple. Seems backwards but is there any other way with this valve? Or is there some way to remove restrictor for 1st set of ports?

Would it be correct to hookup as follows:
from loader valve curl up to P1, dump to P2
C1A to grapple open, C1B to grapple close
C2A to curl bucket, C2B to dump bucket
and then ports C3A and C3B can be used at a later date for a top cyclinder
for rear 3 point.

Sorry for the long post. I know theres many of you on here that knows this stuff, Please advise if I'm looking at this wrong are if theres a better way to install.

I Checked on a simular valve but Quote:"First circuit is prioritized so first solenoid must be powered to turn first circuit off." SOOO, when switch for work port is activated, it would power work port and turn first circuit off, thus you lose the bucket curl when grapple use. I enquired the tech guy@SC and I think there was another valve that would allow both curl &grapple action same time??? I don't remember the circuit detail? Another thing, restrictors makes for smooth/slower speed on grapple action=to bucket action speed and keeps grapple from slamming(to fast) down, so don't throw restrictors away. Maybe a pro on here might know what I'm talking about? I first read about this on some DIY homade grapple forum on the web? The air thing sounds like a great Idea.

 

[dirt clod]

Update
I'm pretty happy with it so far!
It's a big relief to know for the money I spent it will work.
Just got done with "plumbing".
I did remove the restictor in port 1 before install.
Have not wired it with switch yet.
Tried with test wires ran to battery.
1st time I tried neither the bucket or grapple worked. They both seemed to be stuck. Turns out I was mistaken that if I got open and closed mixed up it would just work backwards and then it would be simple job of switching, not true at all. I was concerned also with the statement that 1st circuit had a restrictor as I wanted to use this default circuit for curling bucket. I tried the grapple in both the 1st and 2nd circuit and at idle saw no change in speed. Curl function worked as normal in 1st circuit. Have not used machine as of yet. Should be able to finnish wiring wed. night. I already made a T-handle switch asem with dual switches. Do not have a top cylinder for 3 point to test yet, I would think the check valve in circuit 3 would be good for this.

 

[yankeerider]

Any further updates on this valve?

I would like to use it on my Deere v-plow to switch between raise/lower, left cylinder extend/retract, and right cylinder extend/retract using the factory hydraulic up/down power pack. My real concern is that check valve in the third circuit which I would think would have to be removeable for full double acting control.

 

[TRUST]

I would be interested in hearing more and seeing some pics.

J.

 

[dirt clod]

It's working good. I removed the restrictor, easy to unscrew. I'm not sure there is a check valve on it. When I was having problems on getting it to work on the curl function, I tried it in the 3rd set of ports and didn't notice anything differant. It didnt work until hooked to the lift function on the fel. Works real good this way. While lifting a load I can bump the button to tighten the load. When dumping the button swaps the down and open function. For a handle I use a 3/4" pipe to make a T handle for the fel lever. Found a push button switch that fit nicely inside. When I was trying to use the curl funtion I swapped ports on the selector valve to see if it was problem. I did not notice anything differant so there may not be a check valve or mine may not have been working. I'm impressed with the quality of the valve. I mounted it on the loader arm. Installed a large canopy at a later date which required front supports. After installing I wondered about two small round dents on the tubing. There was not enough clearance between the selector valve mounted on the loader arm and the metal tubing, the solenoids on the valve showed no damage! As of yet I have not utilized the 3rd function for a 3 point top cylinder as planned.

 

[dirt clod]

Don't have any pics of the valve itself. My BIL is useing tractor now so I can't snap any. I do have some of grapple in use from a job.... quintonhall/Grapple - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

 

[6sunset6]

I just ordered one of these. I read it as a selector valve and will run it off one of my two rear remotes. I could have probably have used a two port instead of a three but I wanted to have room for expansion, for other toys .
I plan on the priority circuit for a top cyl on the tph , circuit 2 for tilt and circuit 3 for angle on a back blade. The restrictor is good everything runs to fast. 1/4" hoses to.
On a new handle for the remote will be a toggle to pick the coil on the priority port to turn it off , the spool should block the top cylinder where it is.
Then 2 momentery push buttons , one for circuit 2 Tilt and one for circuit 3 the angle . With all coils off all Cicuit one is selected and the other two are blocked. The remote valve is center blocked to the cylinder ports anyway.
I am a little concerned about the check valve in the "A" port in the third set.
Not sure how the return would work with a check valve there . Hope it can come out. This project will take some time . I will post info and pictures as I get stuff done.

 

[6sunset6]

Have not received the valve yet from Burden. But they did receive the order and charged my credit card.
Ordered a tilt cylinder from C & C.
Working on a fittings list and looking for a grip with a toggle and 2 momentary switches. OTTO has what I want but I have to go through a distributor. Not an exciting thought for 1 part. Feels like $$$$.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

Try these guys for a joystick. Used Construction Equipment Parts Division @ Wenger's of Myerstown They might have a used one from a skid steer around. I buy from them, good to deal with.

 

[6sunset6]

I looked at the surplus guys for a joystick . thanks Andy no joy
But then I found these guys Sure Grip Controls, control grips and industrial joysticks for mobile equipment
They have a number of types and US dealers.
The one I am looking at is pretty simple see attachment. Looks like $100 kind of stiff but then everybody has to eat.
I think the selector valve came today , wife told me heavy box out front.

AHH Joystick is $135 plus shipping. almost as much as the valve. Have to look some more.

 

[Hooked_on_HP]

Is there any updates on this valve. I am wanting to use joystick for the FEL for the angle on the snowplow mounted on my FEL. On the wiring couldnt you use 2 switches for the 3 solenoids. If you installed switches for #2 and#3 and connected the wire that energizes these solenoids to solenoid #1, since #1 has to be energized(closed) for #2and #3 to work?
Bill