salt neutralizer yes/no/maybe?

[truckdiagnostics]

Thoughts on a salt neutralizer.
been using this Eastwood Road Salt Neutralizer Gallon it is not cheap. used about two years, but is it really making a difference or is it just that we are washing the vehicle more?
leaning towards switching to this 3X Chemistry Salt Neutralizer, Gallon it is more cost effective.
thoughts thanks

 

[Roadworthy]

I don't know how you'd neutralize salt. The first one indicates it neutralizes corrosion film. Try washing your vehicle more often with special attention to rinsing upon completion.

 

[Jstpssng]

It's the underneath which really needs attention... there's always a few nooks and crannies which collect road debris, and those are where they rot. As Roadworthy says, it's pretty hard to neutralize salt; the best that you can do is keep it from vulnerable surfaces. Or move south, below the rust belt... I hear that Hunt4570 is looking for a few good neighbors. :stirthepot:

 

[JohnDeereJoey]

I've never tried the "neutralizers" because I've never seen a credible, independent supporting report.

My experience with "undercoating" has been mediocre.

My experience with light viscosity rust preventers (Krown, Fluid Film...) has been very good. It requires drilling holes to get it into the hidden cavities that love to rot out from water and salt. Re-apply yearly.

 

[RickB]

If you care to:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/Division...4_Presentations/134718SaltNeutResultsPres.pdf

 

[/pine]

You might check with marine dealers...there are many different products for those that boat and fish in sat water...many offer concentrated products for large applications...not just fishing tackle etc...

 

[truckdiagnostics]

If you care to:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/Division...4_Presentations/134718SaltNeutResultsPres.pdf

thanks!

 

[the old grind]

Funny how we disdain chloride in our rims, but when it's sprayed liberally on dirt roads to keep dust down we want to blame de-icing salt. (Welcome to MI)

Know your salts! NaCl is hygroscopic at 80% humidity, CaCl above 20%. Getting chlorided road dust on your car/truck will do far more damage in mild temps than road salt will in cold ones.

Dust from chlorided roads will cling and collect moisture in humidity above 20%. That's why CaCl has been used for ages to dehmidify basememts and covered boats and to keep dust down on roads by 'dampening' surfaces atmospherically.

Guys who only drive roadsters and rods on warm sunny days, to cruises, etc learn to avoid MI's dirt roads. When will the rest of us catch on?

 

[dstig1]

You go back to basic chemistry. You neutralize a salt with an acid.
If you look at the Material Data Safety Sheet for the product, what do you see listed?
CHEMICAL FORMULATION: Inorganic acid solution
Sulfamic Acid < 5.00%

Umm, not quite. Acids combine with bases to make salts. Salts are pH neutral but promote corrosion by essentially creating an electrochemical battery with the steel in your car.

 

[truckdiagnostics]

If you care to:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/Division...4_Presentations/134718SaltNeutResultsPres.pdf

I am glad to see i am not the only one on the fence. However based on the above, I may not be gaining a lot buy using it however i am no loosing. Is the reason i have no rust under the doors or any of usual places because of the neutralizer or because I maybe washing more? don't know, it however appears it might be working and I am going to continue the use. Thanks for the information.

 

[oosik]

My neighbor has a boom sprayer on wheels. Hooks to the end of his pressure washer. Rolls it around under tractor and other equipment. When he turns it up really high - the eight nozzles will shoot 30 to 35 feet up in the air. I was going to borrow it but then I saw how drenched he gets using it. I'll go easier and use the garden hose and nozzle.

 

[Paystar]

I've always been a big fan of Krown Rustproofing and the last while when I bring my vehicles in I have been also getting their Salt Eliminator wash. And when I put my 2010 up on the hoist I am amazed that it is still shiny new looking underneath. And I live in salt country.

Now on my new aluminum Ford my salesman talked me into getting it sprayed at Canadian Tire. He tried to tell me it is better than Krown. Well I can say it is definitely thicker. But now it has a thick layer of crud built up on it under the truck and in the engine bay.

I don't know if that is better or not. Thinking of switching that one back to Krown too.

 

[the old grind]

Krown if you are within 300 mi of a dealer. :thumbsup: (AKA not far from Canada )

If not, familiar Fluid Film and TBN sponsor Wool Wax are IMO the other best preventatives. They're DIY, and rattle cans may be easier than gallons & 'deluxe' kits like I bought.

That said, I suggest 6 cans ~$50, will be ok under a truck, with say 1-3 $7 cans/yr to follow up. YMMV

 

[truckdiagnostics]

My neighbor has a boom sprayer on wheels. Hooks to the end of his pressure washer. Rolls it around under tractor and other equipment. When he turns it up really high - the eight nozzles will shoot 30 to 35 feet up in the air. I was going to borrow it but then I saw how drenched he gets using it. I'll go easier and use the garden hose and nozzle.

I try KIS i use a 90 elbow that i put on and off the end and slid it around underneath.