Russian Meteor

[rekees4300]

While the topic of accidental nuclear war is being discussed, does the name Stanislav Yevgrafovich Petrov ring a bell? It should since because of him the USA still exists!!

Stanislav Petrov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jerrybob]

While the topic of accidental nuclear war is being discussed, does the name Stanislav Yevgrafovich Petrov ring a bell? It should since because of him the USA still exists!!

Stanislav Petrov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They named a vodka after him........Petrov Vodka Facts and Figures

 

[Soundguy]

then it would be more appropriate to drop the bomb ON Russia, and not over it.

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actually.. air burst is pretty darn effective..

 

[ArtMech]

I would add propaganda aspect to the topic. They know most of all Western countries are scared of accidential or uncontrolled missile(s) launch to be occured because of incompetence, equipement failure, corruption, vodka, loss of discipline and many other possible reasons. And they are frightenning the world in that way - if something will go wrong, nobody knows what might happen. The difference is a) in the cold war era they were saying, we will launch a missile, b) now they let the world understand the missile launch could go out of control. For sure they think b) works better for them now than a), and successfully use this Scare Tactics idea. But in reality I think it's only the game and propaganda.
Looks like even recent meteor fall is applied as a part of Scare Tactics program.

 

[MossRoad]

actually.. air burst is pretty darn effective..

You are correct. I'm pretty sure almost all nukers are set to detonate above ground, not on ground.

 

[MasseyWV]

You are correct. I'm pretty sure almost all nukers are set to detonate above ground, not on ground.

I agree. A simple way of looking at it is line of sight, where one can see much more from high above. The same is true of a blast radius.

 

[dmccarty]

When I wrote up my post about nukes, I did some fact checking on myself and left the page open.

I went to close the page today and some text caught my eye. Most nukes were set to air burst since it would do more damage. The bombs on Japan where air bursts. Then there are penetration bombs to take out command and control center bunkers and I suppose silos. What caught my eye was that there was a third deployment called lay down. The danged bombs were designed so that multiple parachutes where deployed and the bomb would simply lay on the ground before The Big Boom. I never knew that. Lay down mode would send a larger ground shock to destroy underground structures.

Later,
Dan

 

[texasjohn]

Ah, yes:gloomy::gloomy:

How can I kill thee:tombstone:

Let me count the ways:yo-yo::yo-yo:


This meteor has been so educational. Learned about dash cams for all cars, seen dozens of wrecks, meteor blast less damaging than nuclear device because dispersed across 32 seconds of space and time, fragments worth more than gold.

 

[ArtMech]

Another idea was running in Russia about what it was right after no radiation was found. Some say it was American cosmic debris. :laughing: Vivid imagination!

 

[/pine]

speaking of Russians...

"We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but
we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of
socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism." - Soviet
Leader Nikita Khrushchev, 1959

 

[Soundguy]

Another idea was running in Russia about what it was right after no radiation was found. Some say it was American cosmic debris. :laughing: Vivid imagination!

many countries have to control their people via propaganda and pressure. easier to handle if they think the world is evil and out to get them and only thr govt is standing betweent hem and obliteration.

My wife travels the world, and in but a few rare instances... many indigenous populations she has seen live under an iron rule, and have a less then real perception of the wold outside their country.

look at north korea. speakers int ehri homes blasting propaganda...

 

[ArtMech]

many countries have to control their people via propaganda and pressure. easier to handle if they think the world is evil and out to get them and only thr govt is standing betweent hem and obliteration.

My wife travels the world, and in but a few rare instances... many indigenous populations she has seen live under an iron rule, and have a less then real perception of the wold outside their country.

look at north korea. speakers int ehri homes blasting propaganda...

Yeah ... had to withstand the test of that **** by my fur not long ago.

 

[MasseyWV]

look at north korea.

On nighttime satellite imagery, North Korea looks like a black hole among the scattered light sources from other more developed countries.

Darkness over North Korea - Image: North Korea's permanent blackout - CNET News

 

[Soundguy]

my best friends niece just came back stateside from being stationed in south korea ( helo mechanic ).

she said it's a pretty sad state of affairs over there in the north..

 

[RoyJackson]

One of the major concerns during the Cold War was a meteor hitting the USSR or the US and being mistaken for a nuclear attack.
Although such a strike wouldn't have radiation, the explosion would be similar to the nuke going off...and something like that could have resulted in an accidental war.

It's a good thing this object exploded at 15 miles altitude. In 1908, a meteor or comet that exploded 3-6 miles over Tunguska, Russia (see: Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and flattened several hundred square miles of trees. Think about if it had happened over the eastern coast of the US...or Europe.

 

[MasseyWV]

One of the major concerns during the Cold War was a meteor hitting the USSR or the US and being mistaken for a nuclear attack.
Although such a strike wouldn't have radiation, the explosion would be similar to the nuke going off...and something like that could have resulted in an accidental war.

It's a good thing this object exploded at 15 miles altitude. In 1908, a meteor or comet that exploded 3-6 miles over Tunguska, Russia (see: Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and flattened several hundred square miles of trees. Think about if it had happened over the eastern coast of the US...or Europe.

We would probably all be french fries if that had happened during the height of the cold war. Reagan scared the crap out of the Russians and they were in full panic mode as a result.

 

[don45640]

Nah.................actually he's PROTECTING them evil Ruskies! LOL! don-ohio ^)

God is punishing those evil Russians!

 

[dmccarty]

my best friends niece just came back stateside from being stationed in south korea ( helo mechanic ).

she said it's a pretty sad state of affairs over there in the north..

I have always been amazed the US and other countries try to negotiate with N. Korea. It is a futile exercise and the only benefit for such talks is so that the US can go to other counties and say we tried. In the mean time, millions die of starvation and torture, while N. Korea builds nukes, apparently is weaponizing them, and building delivery systems. The flip side is there really is NOTHING the US and its allies can do but sanctions which cannot stop the N. Koreans, sanctions can only slow them down.

What is interesting is that this latest bomb test is supposed to have really ticked off the Chinese. The Chinese stated to the public that N. Korea should not do the bomb test. The N. Korean test is likely going to have repercussions. Many of the N. Korean leadership have been removed from power and/or disappeared. The question is why? Certainly it is partly the New Thug In Charge(NTIC) putting in people who are loyal to him. However, China has strong influence in N. Korea which means they have people in leadership positions who might be inclined to throw a coup with the help of China. Is the NTIC removing anyone who might be too close to the Chinese? Supposedly, China has been pushing N. Korea to have Chinese style economy that is sorta free as long as it does not endanger the Chinese Communist Party(CCP). The N. Koreans have refused to do this, so their people starve, corruption increases, and N. Korea continues to fracture.

At some point, the CCP might get tired of the mess in N. Korea. There are millions of ethnic Koreans in the Chinese border regions and the Chinese are obsessed with the idea of domestic harmony. The CCP knows that historically, when the peasants get piss....ed off enough, the party in power disappears. Domestic harmony is very important to the CCP. Will the CCP invade, or sponsor a coup in N. Korea, so the CCP can keep the N. Korean mess out of China? I would think the CCP very well might. They have done it before after all. If so, the CCP would likely have a coup before the N. Koreans have a weaponized nuke. Tick Tock Tick Tock.

Later,
Dan

 

[mjarrels]

I spent a few days in Tague Korea (DMZ). Can't remember for the life of me what I did except muster each morning and head to the club for a American breakfast. Four days later, bused over to Olson AFB and we flew our airplanes But North/South Korea have sercured boarders.

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