Round baler advise

[Jerry/MT]

Jerry
Loose bales on a JD 567 baler could be a blown o-ring in one of the tension cylinders or the tension valve. Also it could be that operator does not have hyd pressure on tension valve(parts key 19) adjusted high enough to make a firm bale.

Jim,
Is that something that needs adjustment or checking on a regular basis throughout the haying season? This guy is really good about keeping his equipment in top shape and he takes a lot of pride in doing the job right. This is the first time we've had a problem with any bales he's rolled for us.

 

[Tx Jim]

There is a pressure gauge on RH front of baler. I run my gauge on my 467 at about 1:30-2:00 o'clock on the gauge and sometimes it's difficult to get a bale spear in the bales. What model tractor does he pull baler with as the scv's could be letting pressure bleed off?? My first 467 I put 30,000 bales on it and then traded it for current one to get Netwrap. The newer baler has 14,500 bales on it.

 

[Jerry/MT]

There is a pressure gauge on RH front of baler. I run my gauge on my 467 at about 1:30-2:00 o'clock on the gauge and sometimes it's difficult to get a bale spear in the bales. What model tractor does he pull baler with as the scv's could be letting pressure bleed off?? My first 467 I put 30,000 bales on it and then traded it for current one to get Netwrap. The newer baler has 14,500 bales on it.

I don't recall the model number but his tractor is over 100 HP . You've given me some good questions to ask him before he bales next years. Thanks.

 

[Tx Jim]

I know my friend bought a 6715 and to get the hyd cylinder to stay where he wanted it to be he had to buy an upgraded scv with a built in check valve.

 

[Paul N]

Welll guys, I did it. Today I bought that 2008 BR7060 silage special with net wrap. The dealer came down a little bit and I payed $17,500. The dealer will go over it in their shop before delivery to make sure it's field ready. I never planned on spending this much, but when I look on Tractorhouse.com, most 7060's are over 20K. I hope I did the right thing.

 

[foreman Etexas]

Welll guys, I did it. Today I bought that 2008 BR7060 silage special with net wrap. The dealer came down a little bit and I payed $17,500. The dealer will go over it in their shop before delivery to make sure it's field ready. I never planned on spending this much, but when I look on Tractorhouse.com, most 7060's are over 20K. I hope I did the right thing.

I have the Vermeer 5410 REBEL only baled 150bales so far buts its been great,the net.wrap is quick. I switched over to string some and the time difference is a lot,I guess its one of those things if you never had it you wouldn't miss but once you have used it,hard to go back.

 

[Tx Jim]

I agree on the added speed of the netwrap while baling hay. All things equal one can bale 25% more bales in the same period of time using netwrap instead of twine. If one of my hay baling customers want twine I charge $2 more per bale. Plus if feeding hay netwrap is much easier to remove from bale than twine if bale can be lifted off the ground.

 

[nckennedy]

HI Guys,
I also am old enough now to avoid the small bales and looking for a round bailer. We are only doing a few acres for our beef cattle. I noticed a NW 852 for about $4,000. It has "auto wrap" on it. Can you explalin what that means and then make any suggestions as to what to look for in a used bailer? Is Hesston a good machine?
Thanks,
nckennedy

 

[PMA]

Never had a hesson but had a new holland 644 and auto wrap meant when the bale is full the wrapping process will begin on its on. Usually has a buzzer to let u know to stop and the same buzzer tells you when the wrapping process is through.

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[bigbull338]

i can answer the loose bales as well.he has the baler setup to make them loose.thats why they fall apart on you before you can get them to the feeding area.the baler needs tobe readjusted.going this weekend to look at a JD 567 thats just had over 2000 bales run through it.the baler has been sitting in the barn for 3yrs.

 

[Tx Jim]

bigbull338
I do agree it's easy for the baler operator to turn the hyd knob to loosen the hyd tension therefore making loose bales. It's also possible the machine has some faulty parts PLUS the baler operator that operates baler incorrectly can make for loose bales. Good luck with your barn find although I wouldn't want a 5 ft wide baler because of the problems one has trying to get them hauled where I live. Around here most 5 ft wide bales are the ugliest/whiskey barrel shaped things because the operators won't crowd each windrow edge to properly fill up the bales so they will be LEVEL.
As I've previously stated JD 467 balers are some of the best I've operated.

 

[D7E]

Agree on the bale width thing...I will never buy another wider than 4ft

 

[bigbull338]

yes the 4 by 5 an 4 by 6 are easier to haul an handle.but depending on your herd size your hay needs will double with the smaller bales.we fed 12 4 by 6 bales a week this winter.where if we was feeding 5 by 6 bales iit wouldve been 7 or 8 bales a week.

 

[Tx Jim]

I seriously doubt a 4X6 bale will take double the number of bales to feed the same number of cows as 5X6. That would mean if I was feeding a 1200# 4X6 bale that a 5X6 would weigh 2400#s

 

[bigbull338]

I seriously doubt a 4X6 bale will take double the number of bales to feed the same number of cows as 5X6. That would mean if I was feeding a 1200# 4X6 bale that a 5X6 would weigh 2400#s

well this winter is our 1st full winter feeding 4 by 6 bales.an we was feeding 12 to 14 bales most weeks.wich means if we had 5 by 6 bales we wouldve fed 7 or 8 bales in the same week.

 

[foreman Etexas]

I seriously doubt a 4X6 bale will take double the number of bales to feed the same number of cows as 5X6. That would mean if I was feeding a 1200# 4X6 bale that a 5X6 would weigh 2400#s

Thought it was somewhere around 25% less in a 4x6 than 5x6,but everyone knows can make the lbs different on whatever size making...

 

[Tx Jim]

All things equal I agree 25% more #s in a 5X6 than a 4X6 bale

 

[foreman Etexas]

All things equal I agree 25% more #s in a 5X6 than a 4X6 bale

I just crunched some numbers a light 4x6(1150lbs) to a heavy 5x6(2,000),his numbers would be at 34%,feeding the same LBS,that's not far off from 25% plus he had a give or take a bale
Also have less bale same waste,if using rings or nothing

 

[bigbull338]

an we use bale rings for the hay.neighbor/cousin feeds hay without rings an his waste is 50% to 70% of his hay.theres 2 big hugh piles of hay on the ground where he feeds hay.

 

[foreman Etexas]

an we use bale rings for the hay.neighbor/cousin feeds hay without rings an his waste is 50% to 70% of his hay.theres 2 big hugh piles of hay on the ground where he feeds hay.

Yeah never got that,rings are cheap. Un-rollers are nice but putting hay out everyday doesnt work for me,very little waste at all...