Road being used as makeshift dump

[coachgrd]

Update...

I called the township yesterday. A lady answered the phone and I explained the situation. I told her about what had been dumped and, get this, she wanted to know if they had left their name with the rubish! Excuse me...you wanted to know if the person dumping illegally left their name to be implicated??? Then she asked why Iwanted it cleaned up. What??? For starters, how about taking pride it the appearance of the townhip!!! Luckily she handed me over to the roads supervisor and I was told that anything 25' or further from the center of the road was the responsibilty of the land owner. (The land is State gameland.) It is all right along the edge of the road so I do think it is within 25'. He said that they have to pay to dispose of tires but would take ride down my road today and make a motion to pay for disposal at tonight's supervisor's meeting.

I offered to help them clean it up, provided they supplied the truck.

I'll let you know what happens.
Gary

 

[ZetorShaun]

polo1665...you did not indicate if the pregnancy test was positive or negative?

Are the dirty dumper procreating and creating more dumpers? I agree, McDonalds is the fast food of choice but the beer cans/bottles I pick up are more like Coors Light (less expensive). Interesting question as well, I think drinking suppresses the guilt associated with littering, so drunks are more likely to litter.

The dumping is not enforce because it is no longer deviant behavior. Just like trespassing on a farm, showing your underwear with your pants hanging off your butt, and smoking dope, it is acceptable. It is another example of how we are "slouching."

Tell your township you will not pay your taxes until they start cleaning up the roadways. How long before you will see some "enforcement." Good work forcing their hand and I am pleased that the roads supervisor is interested and trying to help, I am sure he is a busy guy.

 

[polo1665]

polo1665...you did not indicate if the pregnancy test was positive or negative?

I must admit, I've never had the pleasure of using one before. Unfortunately the instructions were not part of the package that was left for me. I'm hoping it was negative though, I'd hate to go out in a few months and find a baby out there.

Mark

 

[LBrown59]

Today my wife picked up the litter thrown out car windows into our front yard and reports Wendys was the throw away of choice.
Makes ya feel like taking the stuff and dropping it off at their front door.

 

[tallyho8]

The mail litter I find in my yard is from Wendy's, McDonalds and Popeyes. These are all about 4 miles from my home. Just enough time for people to finish their meal while driving and chuck it out the window.

As far as beer cans go, it was legal for people to drink and drive in Louisiana until a couple of years ago and I knew many people who usually had a few cans or bottles lying around inside their cars. Now that Louisiana passed an open container law which makes it illegal to have an open alcoholic container in your car, either empty or not, everyone is chucking them out the window as soon as they finish so they don't get caught with them.

 

[dmccarty]

There is a privately run website for the people in my county. One of the topics just brought up was the illegal dumping that went on years ago.

There is/was a utility transformer company near where I work. When the transformer oil was replaced in old units they would put the oil in a specially built truck. The truck when then drive down rural roads in the surrounding counties spreading a little love on the roads. The oil was treated as a hazardous waste since it likely contained PCBs and it was expensive to handle correctly.

Supposedly back in the day people dumped this oil on the dirt/gravel roads to keep down the dust and the weeds. The PCBs were not recognized as a problem back then. But these guys did know and went around dumping the oil.

The company is/was a Superfund site.

Later,
Dan

 

[Scooby074]

People can be disgusting creatures. Nothing sickens me more than being out on a nice country road (usually fishing)and finding someones truckload of crap. A road near home was used as a dump. The county dump came in and cleaned it up. Signs were posted warning that the area was being monitored. Now that the road is passable by cop cars, the dumps are gone and havent come back. Knock on wood.

In the county, we get a spring and fall cleanup pass to take a load to the dump for free. You can haul under 110KG to the dump at any time for free.

If your hauling more than 110 KG you pay $55 a tonne for regular garbage or around $40 ? for C&D. All regular garbage must be separated for sorting.

All our "food" garbage goes into a green bin for compost. Recycables go in Blue bags (up to 2). All other garbage goes in a black bag (private items) and a clear bag (everything else). Were only allowed to put out 4 bags every 2 weeks. All other bags or ones that arent sorted correctly get rejected. Yes its work, but we have among the highest rates of landfill waste reduction in North America.

By the sound of some of the posts here, there are places without mandatory garbage pickup. I can only imagine the mess around the dirtballs places who refuse pickup. Where does that garbage go? Burned or burried on their or someone elses property? I can't fathom this being allowed, it sounds like an environmental disaster.

I agree with the other posters, we have a bottle deposit. Theres hardly any bottles on the roadsides. Now if we can only get rid of the most disgusting things of all...."Trucker Bombs"

 

[jinman]

Today my wife picked up the litter thrown out car windows into our front yard and reports Wendys was the throw away of choice.
Makes ya feel like taking the stuff and dropping it off at their front door.

LB, I feel your pain on this dumping and littering issue, but I think the suggestion to return trash to the fast food merchant is just wrong. There is nothing that merchant can do to make their customers responsible and reduce littering. I clearly put that responsibility on the head of the person doing the littering. I'd like to draw an analogy. Would you say that if a person dumped a couch you would like to return that couch and drop it at the front door of the furniture store? I don't think so. Sure, there are far more bags and drink cups littering our roads, but I don't think we can blame the merchant. They have no magic lens to look through to identify which customers will litter. Just my opinion. . . and you have every right to your opinion even if it is different from mine.

 

[kenstrac]

Years ago I had some property with a very deep ravine along the side of the tar road My neighbor told me that someone had dumped trash down in it snow banks were almost 4 ft high and I got a long telescoping pole with hook and was able to snag a bag they had thrown a couch and chairs end tables and about 8 bags ,found there discarded mail and called police well the Chief was out of town for a couple of weeks and they dispatched Barney Fife he looked over the area and said why don't you wait till spring to have them get it out.I told him that was not an option that I would give them 5 days after that I would press charges.They came over a couple of days later and got it out took about 6 hrs they were not happy campers.
The amusing thing about it was they lived about 1/4 mile from their own dump in the next town and they decided to drive 18 miles to dump it on my land.
Another time my sons and I were fishing in a pond not far from the house and we saw what we thought was a suitcase floating in the water we paddled over and saw it was a safe we managed to get it to shore and I went to get my neighbor the chief and he took it back home. He said he would call me when he found something out and said might even be a reward.
Well he calls the next day and tells me that there was $20K in the safe I went WOW then he tells me that its all in checks that the was only loose change in it, the safe had been stolen from a business 2 towns away about a year before and the thieves never got it opened.
So much for a reward.

 

[MikeD74T]

It never ceases to amaze me that people vote to make dump access nearly impossible, charge for every item dumped, and still wonder why trash appears everywhere else. The idea that humans are slobs is not new. Neither is the idea that humans will almost always take the path of least resistance. As someone else pointed out open container laws increase litter. Government is supposed to supply service in return for your tax dollar, instead they provide bureauracy. Fund your DPW a couple million more per year & maybe they'll pick up the trash, or at least open the dump. I'm just joking about the pick up the trash part. Looking over my property today as the snow melts I found 5 empty pint vodka bottles, all the same brand & varying in label decomposition, where a cruiser regularly parks for radar patrol. A fire dept buddy confirmed the brand is one officer's favorite. I'll talk to the chief but that officer was part time & has moved on already. Doubt the chief will come pick up the bottles. MikeD74T

 

[Mike Costello]

Thanks for the tip on the tire serials. I did not know that! Yes, I have picked up a number of tires and disposed of them. I will do a further Google search and learn more about the serial number system. Hopefully, there's a way to track the slobs down, next time.

Tire serial numbers won't help you identify the illegal dumpers. All the serial numbers give you is the tire manufacurer and the date the tire was built. The fact that the serial numbers had been removed with a tire knife indicate that the tires were dumped by a tire store trying to get rid of their junk tires.
The reason they cut the serial numbers is they don't want sombody trying to get a tire adjustment out of an already adjusted tire. The bad part of all this is that the customer already paid a tire disposal fee for proper handling of the junk tires and the tire shop didn't do its job.

 

[LBrown59]

LB, I feel your pain on this dumping and littering issue, but I think the suggestion to return trash to the fast food merchant is just wrong. There is nothing that merchant can do to make their customers responsible and reduce littering. I clearly put that responsibility on the head of the person doing the littering. I'd like to draw an analogy. Would you say that if a person dumped a couch you would like to return that couch and drop it at the front door of the furniture store? I don't think so. Sure, there are far more bags and drink cups littering our roads, but I don't think we can blame the merchant. They have no magic lens to look through to identify which customers will litter. Just my opinion. . . and you have every right to your opinion even if it is different from mine.

Yeah I know but it's still tempting.

 

[LBrown59]

People can be disgusting creatures. Nothing sickens me more than being out on a nice country road (usually fishing)and finding someones truckload of crap. A road near home was used as a dump. The county dump came in and cleaned it up. Signs were posted warning that the area was being monitored. Now that the road is passable by cop cars, the dumps are gone and havent come back. Knock on wood.

In the county, we get a spring and fall cleanup pass to take a load to the dump for free. You can haul under 110KG to the dump at any time for free.

If your hauling more than 110 KG you pay $55 a tonne for regular garbage or around $40 ? for C&D. All regular garbage must be separated for sorting.

1*By the sound of some of the posts here, there are places without mandatory garbage pickup. I can only imagine the mess around the dirtballs places who refuse pickup. Where does that garbage go? Burned or burried on their or someone elses property? I can't fathom this being allowed, it sounds like an environmental disaster.

2* ...."Trucker Bombs"

1*I'm not a fan of mandatory garbage pickup usually due to how it's administered.
It's caused me to loose trash pick up twice by driving my haulers out of business.
It's caused me to have to pay for trash pick up at another property where little or no trash was being generated and what little there might have been occasionally I was taking care of my self.
On top of that it was forcing me to support the trash hauler that was driving my hauler out of business.
2*Excuse my ignorance but what is Trucker Bombs ?
I don't recall ever hearing the term .

 

[Scooby074]

1*I'm not a fan of mandatory garbage pickup usually due to how it's administered.
It's caused me to loose trash pick up twice by driving my haulers out of business.
It's caused me to have to pay for trash pick up at another property where little or no trash was being generated and what little there might have been occasionally I was taking care of my self.
On top of that it was forcing me to support the trash hauler that was driving my hauler out of business.
2*Excuse my ignorance but what is Trucker Bombs ?
I don't recall ever hearing the term .

Im curious about your #1. How did you "lose trash pickup"? Our pickup is bid under contract (5 yr???), and handled by" waste management", before that it was BFI. Its built in to our taxes, no "opt out". Is your garbage being picked up by small time contractors? If so, your region should bid it more carefully to exclude the fly by nighters.

When you say "take care it your self", i hope your not referring to burning. Thats just as bad (or worse) then throwing it along a road. Thats exactly what mandatory pickup eliminates.

If everybody "took care of it themselves" it would be a heck of a mess. We'd be swimming in garbage and pretty nasty smoke.

Trucker bombs are windshield washer/antifreeze/pop containers filled with urine that truckers throw on the road because they're in too much of a hurry to stop and take a pee like the rest of us. Thoroughly disgusting. Imagine being the guys mowing the ROW when they hit one of those things thats been baking in the sun for a month.

 

[LBrown59]

I'm curious about your
1* #1. How did you "lose trash pickup"? Our pickup is bid under contract (5 yr???), and handled by" waste management", before that it was BFI.
2*It's built in to our taxes, no "opt out".
3*Is your garbage being picked up by small time contractors? If so, your region should bid it more carefully to exclude the fly by nighters.
4*When you say "take care it your self", I hope your not referring to burning. That's just as bad (or worse) then throwing it along a road. That's exactly what mandatory pickup eliminates.

1*Forced trash pick up drove out the competition and left a monopoly of only 1 hauler.
Unfortunately both times it happened my trash hauler was one of the companies forced out of business.
2*One of my pet peeves about mandatory trash service.
Stifles competion - eliminates choice.
3*No always involved out fits such as [ waste management BFI Rumpke etc.]
4*No I live 2 miles out side the city
Had service with Rumpkie at the time .
Owned a vacant garage apartment just inside the city limits 2.3 miles from my home.
Just used the garage to winter a couple of my pick ups in and work on my vehicles as required
Needed a little water occasionally but to get the water turned on I had to sign up for trash pick up with the cities trash hauler which was BFI at that time I think .
Didn't make sense to have to pay BFI when I was already paying Rumpkie to haul my trash.
It probably took 3 months for me to fill up a 30 gallon trash can at the garage.
Paying 2 trash haulers was a pretty hefty sum to be paying for such a small infrequent amount of trash.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Im curious about your #1. How did you "lose trash pickup"? Our pickup is bid under contract (5 yr???), and handled by" waste management", before that it was BFI. Its built in to our taxes, no "opt out". Is your garbage being picked up by small time contractors? If so, your region should bid it more carefully to exclude the fly by nighters.

If everybody "took care of it themselves" it would be a heck of a mess. We'd be swimming in garbage and pretty nasty smoke.
.

My area has very decent prices on trash pickup due to competition. Small local companies are not "fly by nighters", around here the small local companies have been in business much much longer than the large WM and BFI's, because they actually provide good service at reasonable prices. I contract out my trash pickup, but I can chose not to have trash pickup and take it myself to the dump. I don't need nor want the local government telling me who to contract with. The large companies are always trying to get non competitive long term contracts, they can't compete otherwise. In my area the WM and BFI prices are outrages compared to the local companies.

 

[CurlyDave]

By the sound of some of the posts here, there are places without mandatory garbage pickup. I can only imagine the mess around the dirtballs places who refuse pickup. Where does that garbage go? Burned or burried on their or someone elses property? I can't fathom this being allowed, it sounds like an environmental disaster.

We don't have mandatory garbage pickup in the county, and I don't see anything wrong with that.

I don't see a lot of trash along the roads either. Must be our state bottle deposit. I have personally given up on returning bottles & cans. We have to take them back to a store that has an outside "reverse vending machine" you put the bottle/can in, it reads the bar code and when you are done it gives you a refund ticket you take into the store. They are programmed to reject anything not sold by that store, which is a PITA.

I tried twice last year to take bottles back. Both times I had to run a gauntlet of homeless guys just hanging around the machine waiting for the first one in line to put his bottles in at the rate of 1 every 2 or 3 minutes. I just gave my sack of empties to one of the bums. The second time the machine was out of order, so I left the sack for a bum to find. Now I collect them in a sack and when the sack gets full give them to someone asking for money by the side of the road.

I enjoy burning my trash in a burn barrel. No I don't believe in man-made global warming. Maybe it is getting warmer, maybe it isn't but it is due to solar variation, not carbon dioxide. I always say: "This is for you, Al Gore" when I light off the barrel.

 

[Cat_Driver]

There was this are that was used by dumpers till someone made some steel plated with welded spikes and buried them in the road with the points exposed where the dumpers would go.

After several obvious flat err I mean sliced beyond repair tires the dumping stopped because the dumpers never knew when or where the steel plates would appear.

Hmmm seems like word got around, been clean ever since.

 

[polo1665]

We have no mandatory trash pick-up in our area. There is also not a problem with wholesale dumping of household trash along the road. There IS a problem with people deciding to flip garbage out of the car window while zipping down the road at 60 MPH. Open the window and let the wind take it .... Poof .... its gone, just like magic.
I'm also a big believer that alot of the garbage comes from the wonderful garbage trucks that are picking it up to begin with. My can is laying on it's side about 95% of the time after being emptied and there is usually a little trash scattered about that needs picked up. Generally the truck is operated by one person anymore. Clamp a grapple around the can, pick it up, dump it in the truck, put it down, and drive to the next place. Anything that doesn't make it into the truck's bin blows on down the road, and if your can doesn't happen to land on its feet, its tough luck.
I will also burn cardboard or paper garbage. I don't burn plastic, it stinks too much.

Mark

 

[dmccarty]

Mandatory trash pickup stinks. We had to pay for it back in the city and it was horrible. They only good thing about the service is that they would empty garbage cans on the side or front of the house. What was bad about this was that they used big carts to dump hold the garbage from the cans. They would fill the carts to over flowing. Which meant we would have pieces of trash on our ground every trash day.

Since we BAGGED our trash the trash left on the ground was not ours but someone elses. And I got to pay for this "service." No way to opt out of the service either.

Another nearby city changed their pickup so that people had to drag the cans to the street. They raised the fees at the same time. The People were not happy to say the least.

Later,
Dan