Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned

   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,151  
<snip> We never trusted the sister, she and her husband were always too busy to help out, too busy to take my MIL to appointments, etc. They never really lifted a finger and they never helped get the house cleaned up and ready to sell after the MIL went into a home (she was a hoarder so it was no easy task). They even had their kids ask my MIL for money for trips to Europe, cars, etc.

I suggested to my MIL that she consolidate her money into one investment house which she did. I also suggested that the set the account up as TOD (Transfer on Death) to the two daughters 50% 50% which she did. I had her keep about $30K out of that account separate for funeral expenses, etc. When she finally passed, my wife's sister and husband sprung into action like we never saw before. They wanted control of everything but did not know the MIL's personal advisor so I set up a meeting for the day after the funeral (we were all from out of town). The advisor went over the TOD distribution proceedings and during that meeting the sister and husband became visibly agitated. On a TOD, the money in the account bypasses probate and in this case it was owned 50% 50% the moment the MIL passed.

My god they were pissed, the husband even threatened the advisor. As it turned out they had an attorney from their home town write up a will with the sister and her husband receiving everything under the terms of the "new" will. The MIL had Alzheimer's in her final years and they had her sign the "new" Will unbeknownst to my wife and me. My wife had records of when her mom was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and it was prior to the signature. Not that it mattered because of the TOD, but it sure put a damper on their new threats to sue us. My wife had signature authority on the $30K so I had her write out the funeral home check, etc. before the sister could do anything with that account. My wife and her sister each received about $350K. My wife still has hers, the sister does not.

We have not seen them in years and likely never will.
I have seen that happen several times in my wife's family.

My wife is an attorney and acted as an executor for probably half a dozen of her aunts and uncles.
Her mother is one of family of a dozen children, so there were plenty of them.
It always amazed me that there were a couple of the offspring that circled like vultures when the death of one of their aunts or uncles was imminent. But were never around when help was needed.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,152  
I was fortunate that my 4 siblings and I, despite long-held personal disputes between several, did not argue one peep about the estate when my dad passed away. One of them and I were the executers of the will, and the other 3 said do whatever you need to do and thank you for taking care of it. It couldn't have gone any smoother.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,153  
I have seen that happen several times in my wife's family.

My wife is an attorney and acted as an executor for probably half a dozen of her aunts and uncles.
Her mother is one of family of a dozen children, so there were plenty of them.
It always amazed me that there were a couple of the offspring that circled like vultures when the death of one of their aunts or uncles was imminent. But were never around when help was needed.
Interesting. Whether or not someone has anything to gain from an elder passing, the time to spend time with them is before they pass. That has always been my style.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,154  
People don't understand its only the next dollars beyond the top of a bracket that are taxed at the next higher rate. NOT YOUR ENTIRE INCOME!

Acquaintances told me the wife quit work because her wages went 100% to pay the taxes on what her husband earned, and he agreed with this reasoning. I think her real reason was she wanted to play golf with her friends all day. They've declared bankruptcy twice that I know of. No savings for kids college. She got an inheritance and bought a new Mercedes, soon wrecked it.

I don't understand people like that.
i understand people that golf everyday.
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,155  
my dad had a shillelagh from ireland, passed down thru the generations.

When he died all 3 sons wanted it.

We each flipped a coin until we had an odd man, he got the shillelagh.

not i
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,156  
my dad had a shillelagh from ireland, passed down thru the generations.

When he died all 3 sons wanted it.

We each flipped a coin until we had an odd man, he got the shillelagh.

not i
We'd have made it a traveling trophy. :)
 
   / Retirement Planning - Lessons Learned #1,157  
my dad had a shillelagh from ireland, passed down thru the generations.

When he died all 3 sons wanted it.

We each flipped a coin until we had an odd man, he got the shillelagh.

not i
Whats a slillelog lag lshg? Lahg? Lagh?
 

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