Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing.

   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #111  
It's just like everything else in this country. REGULATIONS!!!!! BECAUSE - There are too many dumb azzes that dont have a ounce of common sense that go out and hurt or kill some innocent people by grossly exceeding gvw and or gvcw and think nothing of it until their load just demolished a family in a minivan.

What do you mean??? All the guys in the watering hole said I am good to go for towing a 24 foot trailer with a 25000 pound weight with my six cylinder short bed Ford Truck. They even said I should get 30 MPG while towing, claim they do it all the time, NO PROBLEM.
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #112  
So do you run those tires at 44 psi or the Ford recommended 35?
Those tires are not gonna take your axle rating at 35 psi for long. Looks like Ford is asking for another Explorer/Firestone class action suit by cheaping out in important areas...

Yes sir! Same thing with all my trailer tires.

I am very **** about tire pressures. I lower them down in winter unless towing but keep them up the other 9 months.

This is not a ford specific issue but I see you want to make it one.
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #113  
Yes sir! Same thing with all my trailer tires.

I am very **** about tire pressures. I lower them down in winter unless towing but keep them up the other 9 months.

This is not a ford specific issue but I see you want to make it one.
So why doesn't Ford recommend the proper air pressure for the loads it rates it's trucks for? Typical Ford over-rating...
Good to know some people know not to trust most specs.
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #114  
So why doesn't Ford recommend the proper air pressure for the loads it rates it's trucks for? Typical Ford over-rating...
Good to know some people know not to trust most specs.

Lets see your door sticker and tire sidewall assuming they are stock.
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #115  
Yes sir! Same thing with all my trailer tires.

I am very **** about tire pressures. I lower them down in winter unless towing but keep them up the other 9 months.

This is not a ford specific issue but I see you want to make it one.
OOH boy -I've gone and done it now, I was not trying to start a Ford, Chevy war here.
But it just seems odd that ANY truck with a high tow rating, and fairly high payload would actually put a P rated tire on a vehicle that potentially could be used for (example) to say move a family on a long trip through the desert heat, fully loaded with a loaded trailer, those sidewalls are going to get hot (4 ply rated?) especially if run at the sticker specified 35 psi. It would make me somewhat nervous after running close to 70mph for hours in the heat, then descending a mountain grade- with the brakes on, wheels begin to get hot sidewalls will be under a lot of stress flexing keeping the speed down and loaded to max rating this just sounds like a recipe for an accident..
As far as the Firestone tires go - I think the blow out part rests mostly on Firestone , anybody old enough to remember the Firestone (500)? how many people were killed by those tires-they would separate the tread and then boom, tire shrapnel.
Now I will probably take heat for this, but- if most of the readers of this worked at a rental yard and someone shows up with a a truck, with what can be called car tires, would you let them rent a heavy piece of equipment and drive away with it... I can see why they might put a blanket policy in place, to exclude 1/2 ton trucks...
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #116  
Lets see your door sticker and tire sidewall assuming they are stock.
Difference is Dodge doesn't market my truck as "Heavy Duty" or give it ridiculous payload ratings that might max out it's components.
Funny your "HD" package truck has a weaker front axle (by 300 lbs) than my 9 year old "regular" truck and the rear axle is only rated 150lbs more. The Dodge/GM trucks may look weaker on paper compared to an overrated Ford but that's because they under rate their trucks.
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   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #117  
Difference is Dodge doesn't market my truck as "Heavy Duty" or give it ridiculous payload ratings that might max out it's components.
Funny your "HD" package truck has a weaker front axle (by 300 lbs) than my 9 year old "regular" truck and the rear axle is only rated 150lbs more. The Dodge/GM trucks may look weaker on paper compared to an overrated Ford but that's because they under rate their trucks.
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Omg, shut up already
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #118  
i go by tire specs.. not door jamb specs for airing tires? what's everyone else use. i knew we already have some responses to this.. etc..
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #119  
i go by tire specs.. not door jamb specs for airing tires? what's everyone else use. i knew we already have some responses to this.. etc..

Tire specs
 
   / Rental Yards here now require 3/4 ton truck or better when towing. #120  
I go about 2-4 psi under the tire specs. The door specs are recommended from the manufacturer for the best ride and tire wear combo. Constantly running at the tire spec max will cause excessive wear in the center of the tire.
 
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