removing / installing tractor tires

[BC Dave]

y-ellow yanmarians

Removing / installing tractor tires; 180d with 2 leaking tires (tubes); rear 12.4X16 & ft 6x12

Im sure this has been asked; but is it easy?:confused2:; I have 3-17" tire irons I used to install motorcycle tires; second one was less of a struggle and windex helps.

Thoughts and suggestions to help speed this up would be appreciated.

Cheers BC dave

 

[deepNdirt]

You'll find that breaking the beads and re-seating them will be the most difficult of the task, after breaking the bead they'll be like most any other tire to remove from the rim, as you know just be careful not to pinch the inner-tubes, I have a cheap tire changer, works good on most any wheels up to about 16" but my rear wheels are 24" so I have to change the tires out with tire irons just as you have, Though I can still use the bead breaker device from the tire changer to break the bead, If you dont have a bead breaker tool, You can try doing what I used to do.
If you have a trailer with a tongue jack and this will require the use of another jack to hold the trailer up,
Note the trailer should be heavy with a few hundred tongue weight pounds, or either load the front to make it heavier, line the tire/wheel under the foot of the trailer jack and start cranking down the jack on the sidewall of the tire trying to keep as close to the rim as possible, You may have to rotate the wheel a few times in order to break the bead away, Oh! did I meantion to be sure and let the air out before doing anything
and when re-installing the tire have a bottle of soap/water to squirt around the bead to help it slip into place,

here is a link to another thread in which another member started, he improvised by using his trailer, but in another way that worked....http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/176319-tire-bead-breaker.html

 

[clemsonfor]

i would just pay someone like i do. i pay $f for front repair and $15 to mount and replace rears. im cheap but not that cheap.

 

[deepNdirt]

Ahh! clemsonfor... I agree if one can afford to pay someone else, I'm not cheap just independent... My son is a tire/battery/lube man at one of the local shops, He has changed out many tractors tires, he say's its a good workout on some of the larger ones but they do get paid well There for it,

 

[kenmac]

Ahh! clemsonfor... I agree if one can afford to pay someone else, I'm not cheap just independent... My son is a tire/battery/lube man at one of the local shops, He has changed out many tractors tires, he say's its a good workout on some of the larger ones but they do get paid well There for it,

I just purchased 1 of these Tire Changer Car Truck Tire Machine Changers Wheel | eBay While it won't change the rears.. The bead breaker is nice

 

[BC Dave]

Deep in dirt; thanks for the suggestions; I like the tounge jack idea; and hey that gave me the idea that I could use the bucket and a block of wood (but then again at that point I'd be missing a wheel ...hummm; ...dicy...).

Soap has been reported to help set the bead; but gets slippery again when wetted; windex dryes faster without a film; I think I used dish detergent & windex on a difficult bead and set it in a hot sunny window and used a hair dryer in the end.

Ya clemsonfor; Id pay 15 bucks; but it'll be 80 bucks around here (betting dollars to donuts) ... plus I have to take off; plus transport 50 kms; etc. So at that point I'd prefer to do it myself.

Other ideas appreciated; Im thinking I'll just install new intertubes.

 

[clemsonfor]

Deep in dirt; thanks for the suggestions; I like the tounge jack idea; and hey that gave me the idea that I could use the bucket and a block of wood (but then again at that point I'd be missing a wheel ...hummm; ...dicy...).

Soap has been reported to help set the bead; but gets slippery again when wetted; windex dryes faster without a film; I think I used dish detergent & windex on a difficult bead and set it in a hot sunny window and used a hair dryer in the end.

Ya clemsonfor; Id pay 15 bucks; but it'll be 80 bucks around here (betting dollars to donuts) ... plus I have to take off; plus transport 50 kms; etc. So at that point I'd prefer to do it myself.

Other ideas appreciated; Im thinking I'll just install new intertubes.

MAn looks like i got a good deal!! I was filling my rears a few months back. Old tubes were dry and one actually leaked once i started filling. My neighbor works at the local shop that if i want something done or tires put on i use them. Had them order tubes and install. Think i paid $90 for the 2 tubes and for them to put them in the tire. I did however dismount put in my truck and deliver to the shop.

 

[Car Doc]

I am under the impression these tires are a challenge to do, why I dont know super stiff bead or side wall??? My tire shop did my new front tires and new tubes and they are not amateurs but they pinched 1 new tube twice.

They ended up giving me a another new tube since the pinch was in the same spot and ended up with more of a tear than a hole there so they figured out what they were doing wrong I guess.

fwtw I used to work in a gas station as a kid and changed lots of tires we used a soapy water solution of some kind and these wheels probably tend to rust so cleaning that up would help also.

 

[newbury]

<<snip> My tire shop did my new front tires and new tubes and they are not amateurs but they pinched 1 new tube twice.
<snip>

Glad to hear that.
I pinched a tube twice trying to put it in my front tire, said the heck with it and bought 2 new front tires.

 

[clemsonfor]

im about to foam fill my front tires, I fix about 2-3flats a year. some repairs other have to be replaced at suggestion by tire guy. I think between the $7 tube and $5 fee it will be cheaper than fixing them all the time.

 

[Pete Judd]

For large split rim truck tires, I have used the front wheel of the pickup to break the bead. Just lay the tire flat on the ground, and drive over the tire close to the bead. Repeat revolving the tire until it is broken all the way around.

 

[tommu56]

Ive used the back hoe with a 4x4 across the tire to brake bead.
The last one the tractor wasn't available and I tried every thing to pop it loose I went in for lunch and on the way back I saw the log splitter in the garage started it threw the tire on it with a piece of wood on blade and pop easy peasy.
Now the tire iron thing takes manpower and I haven't come up with a mechanical helper for that yet.

 

[BC Dave]

ah! good bead breaking suggestions; like the just drive over it suggestion; although the rubber is looking brittle ... hummm; dont have a log splitter though

thanks for the suggestions:drink:

bc d

 

[Car Doc]

Has anyone suggested a bottle jack?

 

[deepNdirt]

Has anyone suggested a bottle jack?

I don't think so But I'm sure it would work giving enough weight on the topside of the jack:thumbsup: another thing I thought of, Is! If not for the fact of usually the tire needing changed on the tractor with a FEL, One could actually use the FEL to break the tire down, or has this already been mentioned

 

[Soundguy]

i would just pay someone like i do. i pay $f for front repair and $15 to mount and replace rears. im cheap but not that cheap.

i still do my own tires.. but keep telling myself that I'm gonna let someone else do them from now on..

I'm still too cheap..

 

[clemsonfor]

ha I just noticed "$f" for the front repair. That should read $5.

 

[mvwicker]

HF 20ton H-frame arbor press is what I use to break the bead on my 17" motorcycle wheels. It is big enough to work on car and CUT front tires, though I haven't tried.