Backhoe Reinforce a KB 2375 backhoe

[Mark_G]

What ways have owners beefed up the area prone to failure on the KB2375?
I would think bore a hole the outside diameter of the pipe/tube the hinge goes in, cut it in half and weld a half around each side. I am not a welder so I wish to ask what others have done or if more is needed. I think weld could just be added to the outside of the side to build it up as well, but don't know if that would effect the temper etc. and make it worse.

Any and all ides welcome!

Thanks all.

Mark

 

[IXLR8]

From what I have been able to learn, the failures were do to a batch not being welded properly. I bought my machine used... and it has a new arm and cylinder due to failure, Kioti replaced them even though it was out of warrentee... by a month or two. I looked at the old pieces, after I had purchased the machine, it was fairly obvious it was poor, ie; no, penatration at the welds. I don't know how, or if, you can tell by looking. On my machine, things came undone at about the 250hr mark... how many hrs on your machine?

 

[JoelD]

Mark, are you talking about the stabilizers?

If so, I've got some ideas.

I've also got a big DC welder.

Glad to help if I can.

Any excuse to use my new auto-dark helmet is a good excuse.

Sincerely,
Joel

 

[Mark_G]

I am told the backhoe has between 50 and 60 hours on it (I am buying it used, it arrives Saturday). It looks new.

 

[IXLR8]

Mark, are you talking about the stabilizers?

I am not sure what Mark was talking about, but on my unit it was the dipper arm (I think that is what it is called). The tube that is welded to the arm that the bushing is pressed into was not welded to the arm properly and one time when the arm was curled back the arm pivoted at the bucket rather than at the pivot point and the arm was just pushed away as the tube was ripped from the arm. When the assembly swung away the cylinder rod got dinged up, so Kioti replace both.
I hope this makes sense.

 

[JoelD]

Should be a fairly straight forward weld job. How about a gusset, tube to arm?

Can you post a picture of the area of concern.

Are you thinking it will fail? Are there signs of failure?

The key would be not warping the tube I would think.

Joel

 

[Mark_G]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, heck I may not know what I am talking about being new to this. I was referring to the failures noted in the following thread:
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/64076-help-kioti-backhoe-2375-broken.html

I was wondering what owners have done, maybe I should ask if they have done anything. Were the failures untypical of the unit and I shouldn't worry?

I want to be able to use the backhoe to its potential!

Thanks
Mark

 

[IXLR8]

I took a look at the link you posted... yup.. that is where mine broke. New one from Kioti is redesigned and stronger. I don't know what to tell you except examine that area after every use and contact a dealer if you see anything suspecious. I don't know if there is room to weld on a side plate or something reinforcing in that area.

 

[Mark_G]

I am glad to know if it goes the replacement will be stronger. I of course hope it won't fail, but Mr Murphy (of Murphy's law) and I are old buddies!

Mark

 

[IXLR8]

I will be back to my Maine home, where the tractor is, later this week. If I get a chance.. I will take and post pictures of my 'new' dipper arm to give you an idea of the changes. Maybe yours is already an upgraded arm... one can hope. Apparently not all arms are affected, just a small batch that were not welded correctly from the factory.

 

[Mark_G]

Thank you very much!

Mark

 

[Lloyd_E]

I am looking at purchasing a DK 45s with this BH soon. Should I be concerned about this. What year did this fail on 07/08?

Lloyd

 

[IXLR8]

The 2375 has been upgraded to the 2475 and this is not an issue if you are buying a new machine. My machine was originally purchased Aug 06 and the 2375 on my machine did have the issue and Kioti replaced the dipper arm Oct 07, before I bought it. I have been led to believe the later 2375's have reinforced arm installed. But it was only limited batch of arms that were not welded properly, so most are not an issue.

 

[IXLR8]

Mark... finally found the time to get camera, tractor, computer together; here are the pictures I told you I would get for you. Sorry it took so long, hope they help.

 

[Mark_G]

Jim,
No problem. Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures. The arm looks great. I have a question, what is the bracket for over the upper cylinder in the second (also visible in the 3rd) picture for? Is it to mount a slow vehicle triangle or something? Is there a piece that slides into it? I was looking at the bracket on mine and am not sure what it is for.

Thanks again,

Mark

 

[IXLR8]

My guess is it is for the triangle reflector, I have never removed the triangle from the tractor to see if it would fit. I don't see any need for it as I never leave the confines of our private road.

 

[Cyberroc]

My guess is it is for the triangle reflector

I hooked up my laser sight to it, just to be spot on!!!


j/k I beleive you are correct, it's for the triangle reflector and looks just like the one on my 2475. I did not change it out either as I beleive I would need another bracket of some sort for the back of the reflector. That and I do plan to take the BH off some day and use a PTO attachment.