Refueling Problems

/ Refueling Problems #1  

blkdak

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Bradford Co. Pa
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Kubota L3400
I was refueling my l3400 with one of those fuel cans that you do not need a funnel. The spout catches on the rim of the fuel tank, supports the weight of the fuel can and releases the fuel. Well the spout slipped off the rim and I lost control of a full can of fuel and the spout was ripped off and fell into the tank. I could not see it in the tank or feel it with a coat hanger and I did not want to leave it in. I stopped by my Kubota dealer and they said I was the fifth one this year and they remove the tank to get them. I took the tank off myself, retrieved the spout and was up and running in about three hours. Anybody have better ways to refuel?
 
/ Refueling Problems #2  
I have always used the VP racing style gas cans. They hold about 6 gallons and come with a 20 inch clear plastic hose with a PVC pipe fitting that has an air tight cap and a vent that also closes air tight the keep the fuel fresher. The vent lets you empty the can very fast if yo like.

You can get them at most any motorcycle shop or some auto parts stores.

They come in lots of colors but I prefer the clear ones so you can see how much fuel you have.
 
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I bought a battery powered one from Amazon for 12 bucks
 
/ Refueling Problems #5  
VP cans here also, no funny fittings and they don't roll around in the truck, I got 2 purple ones for diesel fuel.

The fuel hose that comes with them cannot be beat compared to the new regulation nozzles. Very user friendly.

I do with they had a handle on the bottom of the jug though as the top one can be uncomfortable with arthritis when full, it would also make it a little easier to support when fueling. Those are my only gripes.
 
/ Refueling Problems #6  
I use the old style Jerry cans with the standard issue long flexible nozzle.
I found that in order to not pour fuel all over the hood when starting to pour, that a really large funnel helps to create a much larger target.
 
/ Refueling Problems #7  
Use a super jiggler It's a self priming siphon
 
/ Refueling Problems #8  
Thanks for the heads-up blkdak. I use the same type cans and will be sure to be careful.
 
/ Refueling Problems #9  
I was refueling my l3400 with one of those fuel cans that you do not need a funnel. The spout catches on the rim of the fuel tank, supports the weight of the fuel can and releases the fuel. Well the spout slipped off the rim and I lost control of a full can of fuel and the spout was ripped off and fell into the tank. I could not see it in the tank or feel it with a coat hanger and I did not want to leave it in. I stopped by my Kubota dealer and they said I was the fifth one this year and they remove the tank to get them. I took the tank off myself, retrieved the spout and was up and running in about three hours. Anybody have better ways to refuel?

I use off road diesel and gravity.
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/ Refueling Problems #10  
I bought this pump that is rated for diesel at a marine supply store. That was a couple of years and 300 hours ago. I cut the alligator clips off and soldered on a lighter plug for my BX's auxiliary power outlet and I replaced the black hose with clear vinyl tubing. I simply drop the pump into my 5 gal. diesel can, put the plug into the outlet, and then turn the key to ACC to start the pump. It fills the tank in about a minute. The fuel left in the line drains back into the fuel can. The pump is 1.5" in diameter and 6.5" long and it does need to be submerged. I store it in a container like a compound pail with a cover to keep it clean and put an old towel between the wet and dry parts. It works great for me and at $63 w/free shipping, I would buy another in a minute should this one fail.
 
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Fueling tractor.jpg$2.99...or so. No spills in years.
 
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I use the old style 5 gal cans (the dangerous kind that may kill me) and a funnel and so far have not had any problems. However I am looking for a 55 gal drum to put an electric pump on to make things very easy in the future (got the idea from 4shorts BX25 mod thread).
 
/ Refueling Problems #14  
I was refueling my l3400 with one of those fuel cans that you do not need a funnel. The spout catches on the rim of the fuel tank, supports the weight of the fuel can and releases the fuel. Well the spout slipped off the rim and I lost control of a full can of fuel and the spout was ripped off and fell into the tank. I could not see it in the tank or feel it with a coat hanger and I did not want to leave it in. I stopped by my Kubota dealer and they said I was the fifth one this year and they remove the tank to get them. I took the tank off myself, retrieved the spout and was up and running in about three hours. Anybody have better ways to refuel?

Yep, I wrestled with two of those type containers for the first year I owned my L3830 and RTV. I didn't break off the spout, but got tired of messing with them at my age (70+). My brother who farms with very large tractors gave me one of his extra 110 gallon fuel transfer tanks that fit in the bed of a pickup. I mounted the tank on a trailer and bought a 12-volt fuel transfer pump from Tractor Supply. GPI® EZ-8 Fuel Pump, 1/10 HP, 3/4 in. Inlet - Tractor Supply Online Store
I also added a fuel filter at the pump. For the past six years, I tow the trailer/fuel tank to the local key lock fuel station and purchase 90-100 gallons off road diesel fuel at the time. It's hassle free way that requires no lifting to fuel my L3830 and RTV without spilling a drop of fuel.

Bill
 
/ Refueling Problems #15  
I bought this pump that is rated for diesel at a marine supply store. ...
I store it in a container like a compound pail with a cover to keep it clean and put an old towel between the wet and dry parts.

I like that. I don't understand why you don't leave it in the diesel can. Is there some reason you're removing it for storage?
 
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Used one of those for about ten years before it gave up the ghost. Replacement didn't last long so went with the super jiggle. Balancing the old 5 gallon jerry can wile it siphoned got tiring so replaced the tubing with a couple of metres of fish tank tubing. Now I put the can in the FEL and after the siphon starts raise the bucket high and go stand in the sun and count the weeds. :)
 
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A transfer tank is how I fuel up. I got tired of cans too.

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All this year I have been using the exact type of siphon that easygo is using. Been working great and even thought it tilts a bit in the tank it seems to get nearly all the fuel out. I also have a 15 gallon tank that I can draw off a few gallons from. That way I can leave the bigger tank in one spot (out of the way) and easily fill the tractor with the siphon and smaller tanks. Should be okay until the EPA decides that siphons are too simple and need to be re-engineered, for the enviroment and our safety. :confused3: :D
 
/ Refueling Problems #20  
where did you get this?

I have had it for five or six years and don't recall where I bought it. I would try any of your local hardware stores. I believe it is sold as Kerosene Syphon.
 

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