RAM 5500 Pickup

Dmace · Mar 2, 2012

This story of a "long hauler" pickup truck based on a RAM 5500 cab-chassis came out back in December 2011 and now Pickup Trucks is testing one according to their Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/pickuptrucksdotcom

GCWR - 37.5k (blowing by Ford's 33k rating)
Dry weight - 9300 lbs
Tow capacity could be upwards of 27k lbs!
Three fuel tanks totaling 170 gallons.
No word on tranny but it's got to retain the Aisin 6 speed and 800 ft.-lb version of the Cummins.

http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/pickup/163_1112_ram_long_hauler_concept/index.html

Could this be the start of a new lineup of RAM 4500/5500 pickup trucks?

jimmyj · Mar 2, 2012

Very cool!!!

Diamondpilot · Mar 2, 2012

It would be nice to see some competition in that segment for Ford.

Chris

powerstroke444e · Mar 2, 2012

Well I would love to own one. And to say the least I would be able to max out the trailer towing rating but with new f350drw running north of $55k I think a new this would be way out of my price range.

Lt CHEG · Mar 2, 2012

I would have no problem owning a Cummins powered Ram with an Aisin transmission AND DEF injection (SCR emission control). I think all the 4500/5500 trucks utilize the DEF system instead of the souped up EGR, so I think it's got potential. I would love it that much more if they would make a SRW variant.

tlbuser · Mar 3, 2012

Diamondpilot said:
It would be nice to see some competition in that segment for Ford.

Chris

Ford has a standard 550 p/u?

foreman Etexas · Mar 3, 2012

tlbuser said:
Ford has a standard 550 p/u?

550 superduty

CompactTractorFan · Mar 3, 2012

I would not mind owning one if:

1. I was rich

2. I had a CDL.

CompactTractorFan · Mar 3, 2012

tlbuser said:
Ford has a standard 550 p/u?

foreman Etexas said:
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Ford has a F-450 pickup. The F-550 is only available in a cab/chassis.

foreman Etexas · Mar 3, 2012

CompactTractorFan said:
Ford has a F-450 pickup. The F-550 is only available in a cab/chassis.

Think maybe if you bought a dually bed and fleet side bed and took it to body shop,they could make you one x-long bed? Seems like it would work....

tlbuser · Mar 3, 2012

foreman Etexas said:
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Correct, but the implication from diamond pilot was that Ford is already making a p/u version. Dodge has been making a 5500 cab/chassis, maybe not known to DP because they don't spend as much time in the repair shop, forums or boat magazines.

foreman Etexas · Mar 3, 2012

tlbuser said:
Correct, but the implication from diamond pilot was that Ford is already making a p/u version. Dodge has been making a 5500 cab/chassis, maybe not known to DP because they don't spend as much time in the repair shop, forums or boat magazines.

I seen the?My bad! Guess it was one of the smart question/answers I didnt catch:laughing: I like the Ford 450/550,just scared of the powerstroke.I would like to have A 4x4 crew/cab ford 450 with chevy's interior and a cummins.I have 8500 miles on mine

and just got it out for a minor fix(some kinda heater relay),none are like they use to be anymore.

I guess im just cheap cause I didnt wonna spend 9,000 more,for the Ford with same options..

Diamondpilot · Mar 3, 2012

tlbuser said:
Ford has a standard 550 p/u?

No, just a 450 variant. As said, the Dodge has been manufactures as a Cab and Chassis for a few years in 4500 and 5500 series.

Chris

Diamondpilot · Mar 3, 2012

tlbuser said:
Correct, but the implication from diamond pilot was that Ford is already making a p/u version. Dodge has been making a 5500 cab/chassis, maybe not known to DP because they don't spend as much time in the repair shop, forums or boat magazines.

They all spend time in the repair shops. I have 2 friends right now with Dodges in the shop. One with the plastic inter-cooler blown apart and another for fuel related issues. They are blaming water in the fuel.

Chris

Dmace · Mar 3, 2012

Diamondpilot said:
They all spend time in the repair shops. I have 2 friends right now with Dodges in the shop. One with the plastic inter-cooler blown apart and another for fuel related issues. They are blaming water in the fuel.

Chris

Why am I not surprised that you always seem to have a "friend" with a non-Ford vehicle in the shop...
And at 37.5k GCWR, it's not competiton it's domination. BTW, same frame thats rated at 26k on the cab-chassis trucks which you like to claim has a low GCWR due to weaker frames than Ford...

77bronco · Mar 3, 2012

Dmace said:
This story of a "long hauler" pickup truck based on a RAM 5500 cab-chassis came out back in December 2011 and now Pickup Trucks is testing one according to their Facebook page. Welcome to Facebook - Log In, Sign Up or Learn More

GCWR - 37.5k (blowing by Ford's 33k rating)
Dry weight - 9300 lbs
Tow capacity could be upwards of 27k lbs!
Three fuel tanks totaling 170 gallons.
No word on tranny but it's got to retain the Aisin 6 speed and 800 ft.-lb version of the Cummins.

Ram Long-Hauler Concept First Look - Truck Trend

Could this be the start of a new lineup of RAM 4500/5500 pickup trucks?

Seems to me that if you want to tow that much weight, you'd be money and capacity ahead to buy an IH or Freightshaker that was actually made to handle that kind of load, and last ten times as long instead of buying a beefed up pickup.

coobie · Mar 3, 2012

Diamondpilot said:
It would be nice to see some competition in that segment for Ford.

Chris

Chris,I have to comment on this.I have owned a 2004 dodge cummins diesel,2011 ford F250 superduty 6.2 gas(just sold)and now a 2006 ford F-150.I love ford trucks but until they can build a dependable diesel engine like the cummins or duramax they will be in deep crap.The new ford 6.7 diesel is still in the growing pains process that is the reason I bought my 6.2 gasser verses the diesel option.coobie

Diamondpilot · Mar 3, 2012

Dmace said:
Why am I not surprised that you always seem to have a "friend" with a non-Ford vehicle in the shop...
And at 37.5k GCWR, it's not competiton it's domination. BTW, same frame thats rated at 26k on the cab-chassis trucks which you like to claim has a low GCWR due to weaker frames than Ford...

To be fair I know of a 05 6.0L Ford getting APR Head Studs right now and a EGR delete. Ran hard for 152,000 miles with a chip. Tows 13,000# every day for work.

I also know a guy with a 06 Dmax getting a Turbo replaced. No chip, 86,000 miles. Tows 7,000# max.

None of them are perfect.

Show me where I said a Dodge had a weaker frame???? GM prior to this year, yes, but not Dodge. I have only complained about Dodge Auto Trannys and rust issues.

Chris

brewdog · Mar 3, 2012

Very few people I know that bought a RAM truck has ever bought second one. The Air Conditioning is always marginal, Transmission issues everywhere, Front steering wonders on the road. The cummins diesel is about the only good thing there is to talk about. Trouble is you can't buy just the engine. They look cool, I'll give them that, but that's where it stops.
If Ford signed a deal with Cummins, it's all over for the RAM trucks. Just my opinion.

tcartwri · Mar 3, 2012

77bronco said:
Seems to me that if you want to tow that much weight, you'd be money and capacity ahead to buy an IH or Freightshaker that was actually made to handle that kind of load, and last ten times as long instead of buying a beefed up pickup.

These are not beefed up pickups, they are full 5 series trucks with big truck hardware.. The F550 scales at 7200lbs empty.

For those of you lusting after one of these things, a quick test drive would change your mind. They ride like they have no suspension at all.