R4 Industrial Tires-Plowing / Disking / Ploughing / Ground Engaging Tasks

[hammer1995]

First, please excuse the lenghty title. I just wanted to include all of the spelling options for easy searching.

I am currently in the process on getting a Kubota Grand L5740 HSTC. The dealer is offering me either R1 or R4 tires for the same price. I really need some advice on tire selection.

How will the R4's perform pulling a 78" box blade, 7 foot disk, etc? I will use ground engaging implements about 25% of the time.

I do not use this tractor to finish mow, but I will use it in the yard from time to time.

 

[SPYDERLK]

First, please excuse the lenghty title. I just wanted to include all of the spelling options for easy searching.

I am currently in the process on getting a Kubota Grand L5740 HSTC. The dealer is offering me either R1 or R4 tires for the same price. I really need some advice on tire selection.

[[[How will the R4's perform pulling a 78" box blade, 7 foot disk, etc? ]]]I will use ground engaging implements about 25% of the time.

I do not use this tractor to finish mow, but I will use it in the yard from time to time.

Not near as good as R1s. Could be a go/no go comparison more often than occasionaly.
larry

 

[chh]

If you are not mowing your yard or running on pavement a lot you would be far better of with the R 1 Ag tires. IMO. With either tire you would need to be careful in your yard. If you lock a brake to make a tight turn either one will make a pretty good gouge. Discing or ground engaging work the R 4's would work like a worn out set of R 1's.

 

[Stimw]

You couldn't give me R-1's if I wasn't plowing most of the time. If the tractor is 4-WD it will make up for the lack of lugs. R-4's are like flotation tires, they won't hurt grass unless it's very wet or you do something stupid. They make a tractor very stable. If you are using a FEL they are much better.
I have a Branson 3510 35hp the bare weight is about 3600lbs and it pulls a 5' box blade very well. Light weight tractors or 2-WD might have problems with R-4's.
I had a 8-N Ford with R-1's 2-WD and it got stuck a lot. It only weighted about 2500lb.

 

[wolc123]

The traction force that can be developed on loose or soft soil by a 2wd tractor with R1 tires is aproximately the same as could be developed by a 4wd of equal weight with R4 tires. Ground engaging work requires significant traction force, meaning you need to downsize the your implements if you go with R4's. As an example, A 4wd, 40 hp with R1's might effectively handle a 3 X 14" moldboard plow and a 10' disk, but R4's would limit it to a 2 X 14" plow, and a 7.5' disk. Also, R1's will let you work in somewhat wet conditions, and easily get through many mud-holes, which will render R4's completely useless, even with downsized implements. R4's are really only good for industrial applications for which they were developed. They will get the job done on the lawn or in a dry field but in a very marginal way compared to turfs or R1's.

 

[coobie]

First, please excuse the lenghty title. I just wanted to include all of the spelling options for easy searching.

I am currently in the process on getting a Kubota Grand L5740 HSTC. The dealer is offering me either R1 or R4 tires for the same price. I really need some advice on tire selection.

How will the R4's perform pulling a 78" box blade, 7 foot disk, etc? I will use ground engaging implements about 25% of the time.

I do not use this tractor to finish mow, but I will use it in the yard from time to time.

R1,s all the way!I have (loaded)R4,s on my 4X4 2008 Kioti Dk40se and could kick myself in the butt.I plow,mow and do some fel work.Next time R1,s for me.coobie

 

[john_bud]

I have r4's on a 'bota and they work good, unless it is muddy. The lugs will fill with goo and you will have 4 slicks quick. R1's won't do that, as they self clean.

If you are doing food plot stuff, the R1's will get out out in the fields 1-3 weeks sooner.

jb

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Well, I guess that I go against most everybody here. I feel that R1s are for farming. So unless farming is your main purpose that you will be using your tractor for, I would be getting R4s. I have R4s on my tractor for the ruggedness of the tire. Harder to puncture because they usually have 2-4 more plys than the standard R1s. My understanding is that R4s usually end up lasting longer than R1s, but I have no personal experience with that. Normally R4s would be considered better for loader work, usually have a higher load rating.

As far as your box blade and disk, how heavy are they? Light duty and you will most likely end up abusing them, medium duty and you will probably be all right, heavy duty and your tractor could have problems even pulling them, could depend on just how heavy duty they are. A lot depends on what you circumstances are, what type of ground and terrain that you have. A lot of people are down on R4s about traction, all that I know is that I typically run out of power when disking, before I run out of traction. Now if you happen to have a lot of mud through out the year, then they may not be the best choice for you either.

I hope that you end up making the right decision for your circumstances, good luck.

 

[nmu98]

I have r4's on a 'bota and they work good, unless it is muddy. The lugs will fill with goo and you will have 4 slicks quick. R1's won't do that, as they self clean.

If you are doing food plot stuff, the R1's will get out out in the fields 1-3 weeks sooner.

jb

IMHO, if it is too wet for R-4's you should not be in the field. There is no doubt that R-1's are the ticket for traction. Every full time ag tractor uses them. R-4's are best for areas that you dont want tore up.

It just burns me to think that people think its better to get in the field sooner becasue they can make it through it. All they do is pack the soil and get a worse crop.

Tire desicions should be made on what the tractor will be doing most of the time and if there are any needs of not tearing up lawn.

 

[Redbug]

I'm pretty much with what Brian said in his post above. If you are going to use your tractor for more than just farming, I think I would go with the R4's. Using the loader, R4 fronts are a bit stiffer and support the front end load better, too. I have R4's on mine and satisified with them and the multiple uses I do with the tractor. You will have 4WD, (actually 3WD when you lock in both rears..I don't think one front truely engages), and you will use it when you feel some slippage or need to do some pulling.