Questions about new purchase

[eubie5]

Well, the time is now. Just sold my 17yr old bx1800. 1st guy who came and looked at it loaded it up. Now, I really need to get serious.
Been to all the local dealers, and I think I've gotten all their best prices. I think I'm leaning going back with Kubota. I also emailed several dealers from out of state. 1 in Alabama and 1 in Tennessee. The 2 from out of state beat my local dealer by almost $3000. How is that possible? My local dealer has a large dealership, with about 5 stores in the neighboring county's. I'm sure he sells alot of tractors.
Also, the 2 out of state say I don't pay any sales taxes. Does that mean I have to pay my own state a tax? When would I do that? I will ask both of them tmrw, just thought I'd ask here tonight, just to see if this sounds correct.
Anyone else by a tractor long distance? Not once in 17 years was my old bx in for service, not sure how I feel about not having a customer relationship with the local dealer.
Also, I emailed messicks for a quote, and he wouldn't give me one, recommended I stay with my local dealership. He said if there's ever a recall on the machine, "only the selling dealer can do the recall work".
I've never known that, either.
Sorry for all the rambling, it's way past my bedtime, and I have to be up in about 4.5 hours to go to work.

 

[Turbys_1700]

Out of state purchases typically do not have the sales tax added to the unit. In most cases states do not have the mechanisms in place to collect taxes from purchases out of state for tractors and items not requiring a registration. It is up to the consumer to pay the state sales tax. The other issue is service and warranty work. You local dealer will service and most likely warranty your unit but you will be in the back of the line over customers that have purchased their units from them.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

You local dealer will service and most likely warranty your unit but you will be in the back of the line over customers that have purchased their units from them.
May or may not be true. You left area to buy a tractor and have made more than one tractor purchase so a wise selling dealer would try to be there to sell you the next purchase and keep your business for supplies and future off warranty repairs, if they are wise business person instead of personally getting offended at someone shopping around as they themselves probably do. Steve Barlow said he will go pick up a major warranty repair for a unit he has sold out of state and send parts for any easy customer replaceable item as well as give dhone assistance. Most dealers will not discuss the local state tax issue with you other than tell you they don't charge taxes for out of state sales. Kubota had a recall on lids for radiator overflow tanks and they mailed me two lids and even contacted Barlows to ensure I had gotten the lids since they said they had not rec'd a reply back from me that I had gotten them.I've bought 26 Kubotas from Barlows and only a couple evevr needed any follow up warranty work and only one ever had ot be returned to the dealer and I think I probably caused the issue myself many years ago.

 

[eubie5]

You local dealer will service and most likely warranty your unit but you will be in the back of the line over customers that have purchased their units from them.
May or may not be true. You left area to buy a tractor and have made more than one tractor purchase so a wise selling dealer would try to be there to sell you the next purchase and keep your business for supplies and future off warranty repairs, if they are wise business person instead of personally getting offended at someone shopping around as they themselves probably do. Steve Barlow said he will go pick up a major warranty repair for a unit he has sold out of state and send parts for any easy customer replaceable item as well as give dhone assistance. Most dealers will not discuss the local state tax issue with you other than tell you they don't charge taxes for out of state sales. Kubota had a recall on lids for radiator overflow tanks and they mailed me two lids and even contacted Barlows to ensure I had gotten the lids since they said they had not rec'd a reply back from me that I had gotten them.I've bought 26 Kubotas from Barlows and only a couple evevr needed any follow up warranty work and only one ever had ot be returned to the dealer and I think I probably caused the issue myself many years ago.

i appreciate your reply, but after buying 26 tractors from dealer, of course he's going above and beyond. ****, he should send you and the mrs's on a cruise. in all seriousness, barlow's has shot me the best quote yet. it's amazing the difference in prices from 1 dealer to the next. barlow's is only about 2.5 hours away, which isn't tooo bad, if i actually had to return tractor to dealership. the 17 years i've had my other kubota, not once was it in the shop. i did all the maintenance,and any issues that did come up, between the dealer, google, and youtube, i was able to fix things myself. i say all that, and my next tractor will have all sorts of problems. just the way my luck runs. i'm definitely going back to local dealer, in person, to see how much better the deal can be

 

[Citydude]

I bought a tractor in Wyoming and had it delivered to South Dakota thus owing use taxes to South Dakota. I found the tax information on South Dakotas government web page and called their department of revenue to confirm what I owed. Being that the dealer wasn't responsible for taxes, he wasn't very knowledgeable on the subject.

 

[eubie5]

I bought a tractor in Wyoming and had it delivered to South Dakota thus owing use taxes to South Dakota. I found the tax information on South Dakotas government web page and called their department of revenue to confirm what I owed. Being that the dealer wasn't responsible for taxes, he wasn't very knowledgeable on the subject.

yes, everything i'm reading says you DO have to pay the sales tax. i guess, if you go and pick it up yourself, the state you live in wouldn't know you bought it. then it becomes the honor system. but, if i owe the taxes, i'll pay the taxes. don't want the man knocking on my door 2 years later with a tax bill and penalties.

 

[Citydude]

yes, everything i'm reading says you DO have to pay the sales tax. i guess, if you go and pick it up yourself, the state you live in wouldn't know you bought it. then it becomes the honor system. but, if i owe the taxes, i'll pay the taxes. don't want the man knocking on my door 2 years later with a tax bill and penalties.

Same here. Paying the tax was easier than the worrying about the "what ifs".

 

[jeff9366]

Any highway inspection station that a common carrier passes through has the right to inspect and copy bills of lading. There is a regular procedure to send copies to the state department of revenue. Not often done, but sometimes.

My wife purchased discount furniture from a source in North Carolina, fifteen years ago. The bills of lading were copied at a Florida highway inspection station and we received a tax invoice from Florida for about $700 ten days after our North Carolina furniture was delivered. No fine, probably because tax notice arrived within the window when we could have self-declared our sales tax (actually "use tax") obligation. The Florida use tax notice gave us ten days to pay the $700. We/I paid immediately.

 

[PILOON]

While not up on trans state taxing I am somewhat on Can/Us as it was back a few years.
If and when they 'catch' you the new tax is double what it should have been plus another 'tax amt' as the penalty.
True trans border has customs and therefore easier to track.

In Canada to prove exempt tax collection a bill of lading or a post office receipt is needed to exempt the vendor from collecting the local tax.

With something like a vehicle the vendor would need to actually ship via a common carrier and retain the bill of lading to prove the 'out of state' sale.
If U were to pick up with your trailer he would need to collect his state tax.

 

[mopardude318]

Maybe you can get away with AG tax which is less. I was surprised about that in Ca when I bought a $50K tractor tax was only about $1500. Granted I live on a ranch and my mother in law leases 60 acres of vineyards, so I was able to do that.

I would go to the other state and save $3k if it were me. No dealer will deny warranty or service.