question for the network gurus

   / question for the network gurus #11  
Is your extender set up as a router? If it has that function it should be turned off. The router should be the original router. Also, does the extender have DHCP and issue IP addresses. Again, you likely just want the original router to do that.

I assume the extender is supposed to act just as a repeater and pass traffic to/from the main router.

I had a similar situation in my house and added a second router(with the routing functions off) to have it act more or less like a repeater.

Another possibility: Are the extender and repeater using different WIFI frequency channels? If not they will interfere with each other.
 
   / question for the network gurus #12  
um.. ok. i'll see if i can figure that out how to do it.

25ys ago i was geat on computers. now.. ;)

I'm sorry, I do not have a lot of experience with the Android platform otherwise i'd offer a little more direction. We use Windows8 and iOS at my company as well as personally.

Best of luck!

-J
 
   / question for the network gurus #13  
I have a DSL router/modem as well, while yours may not be the same as mine. On mine under the wireless setup, there is a radio setup that you can set the wireless power level might want to see, if this is set to 100%.
 
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#14  
Is your extender set up as a router? If it has that function it should be turned off. The router should be the original router. Also, does the extender have DHCP and issue IP addresses. Again, you likely just want the original router to do that.

I assume the extender is supposed to act just as a repeater and pass traffic to/from the main router.

I had a similar situation in my house and added a second router(with the routing functions off) to have it act more or less like a repeater.

Another possibility: Are the extender and repeater using different WIFI frequency channels? If not they will interfere with each other.

This is an amped wireless unit. When I got it, I had to use my wife's surface tablet, go to its page, tell it to log into my existing WiFi network, supply the password, then it setup another WiFi network, same name, but with a re_2 on the name, and a different password. Is, 2 networks. My phone sees both and can use both, the tablet sees both, can connect to both, I can only load web pages on the original DSL modem\router.

As to thcomment on power level. Dunno, if I can figure out the address to my DSL modem and that amped wireless unit again I will login and see what I see. I had saved the box to the amped wireless, but not sure if the wife recycled it or not.
 
   / question for the network gurus #15  
IP address of your router/modem, from a device you believe is direct connected to it, bring up IE or Chrome put in http://192.168.1.1 using admin and password or admin and admin. If that does not get it here is how to find it on a windows machine, find the icon that shows signal strength, left click on it, should bring a connection screen, right click on the connection, then left click on status, then on the screen that brings up click on details. On this screen there will be entry for gateway, that is your router/modem address.
 
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#16  
Thanks, will try that when I get home.

One other thought, even though new in box, I see this nextbook8 uses android 4.1.1 jellybeanI SEE THERE IS AT LEAST A 4.1.2 JB, and then kit kat.

Not sure if I can update the is, or if it even needs it or afford f that is a factor??

Any android gurus out there with the network gurus ;)

Thanks
 
   / question for the network gurus #17  
Like mentioned by someone else, check the radio frequency on both units. Ipconfig /all at a command prompt on a windows PC will tell you the default gateway which is the router IP of the unit attached to. Usually 192.168.x.1. Wireless frequencies overlap so for best results you want one set lower, maybe 6 and one set higher like 11. Close neighbors can also affect the signal if on the same frequency.

Sounds like the add on unit becomes another router and DHCP server, you may want to make sure it is using a different subnet than the main unit. An issue I ran across recently is my wireless radio was set to auto instead of a specific frequency, eventually my families 2 HP laptops would not work and my wife's ipod 4 would constantly drop then reconnect on the network. The other 9 or so wireless devices worked fine. I set it to 11 (which is less common of a setting) and have had 0 issues since.

List of WLAN channels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
   / question for the network gurus #18  
Here is something you could try. Get the Android tablet working with the original router and make sure you can surf the internet. When you are sure it is working fine check the network settings for that network:

1 Click on your Settings Icon (usually a gear symbol)

2 WIFI will be "ON" and the name of the network to which you are connected should show "Connected". Other networks your tablet has seen will be shown but have "Not in range" or "Saved, secured with WPA2", or similar.

3. Long-press on the name of the network to which you are connected. A window should pop up with two choices; Forget Network and Modify Network.

4. Press on "Modify Network" to display a new window showing the IP data. You may have to click a box halfway down "Show advanced options". It should show your IP address, etc.

5. Note your settings.
Proxy should be "None"
IP settings is likely "DHCP"
IP address will be something like 192.168.x.x depending on how your router is setup. For example mine is 192.168.1.41 (but yours could be 192.168.0.5, 192.168.1.5, etc. The important thing is the 192.168.x.(something).
The gateway for mine is 192.168.1.1 but if my IP was 192.168.0.41 the gateway would LIKELY be 192.168.0.1
DNS 1 in my example will be 192.168.1.1 (same as the Gateway)

The main thing to note is your IP address, Gateway (which is likely 192.168.<same as 3rd number of your IP address>.<something(but likely 1)>
DNS 1 should likely be the same as Gateway.

6. Cancel out of the screens (don't save).

7. Turn off the Android WIFI and get out of settings.

8. Go close to your WIFI extender and turn the WIFI on again.

9. Go into Android settings and check the WI-FI list on the right. See if the tablet is now connected to <yourNetworkName_re2(i.e. the extender)

10. if it is, long press on that network name. A window should pop up with two choices; Forget Network and Modify Network.


11. Press on "Modify Network" to display a new window showing the IP data. You may have to click a box halfway down "Show advanced options". It should show your IP address, etc.

12. Check the settings. Your Gateway and DNS 1 should be the same as your router network above, but I think the IP address should be different(but I'm not sure).

The other thing to try is:

1 Click on your Settings Icon (usually a gear symbol)

2 WIFI will be "ON" and the name of the network to which you are connected should show "Connected". Other networks your tablet has seen will be shown but have "Not in range" or "Saved, secured with WPA2", or similar.

3. Long-press on the ORIGINAL of the network (i.e the router). A window should pop up with two choices; Forget Network and Modify Network.

Click "Forget Network"

4. Long-press the extender network and forget it as in the above step.

5. Go close to the extender network and connect to it.


ONE OTHER THOUGHT:

For the network password you state the extender network has a different password. Check on your instructions, perhaps it should be the same as the router network? (i.e. not talking about the Admin passwords to manage the devices).

I hope this is not too confusing.
 
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#19  
OK I'll look at all this, however out of about 8 wireless devices, only this droid tablet is having a prob with the extender. We have the wife's old netbook and new laptop, her winrt tablet, my surface rt tablet, both our phones and a couple things for our TV boxes. Not all on at once, but nothing else except this new droid tablet has issue with the extender, so it really made me wonder
 
   / question for the network gurus #20  
KubotainNH makes the point the extender may be acting as a DHCP server and/or router. If so, it would be best to turn these functions if at all possible and make the main router handle all that. It gets more complicated if you try to run two different subnets and routers.

Another possibility to try later is to assign static IP's to the phones, computers, printers, tablets you use in your home. You specify STATIC instead of DHCP in IP settings. I run my home network like that. Once setup the devices will remember their settings unless you tell them to Forget the network, in which case you would have to reenter the data.

But it is a bit harder to set up. You need to reserve some addresses that DHCP will not give out on your home router and you need to remember the individual addresses for your computers so you can enter them again.
 

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