I am currently looking at the nx4510 cab hst. While checking out the tractor, I noticed a bar that hangs down front to back that sits just inside the fuel tank, but hangs down quite low in my opinion. The dealer I talked to said that it was a torque arm for the loader. Has anyone had a problem with this bar being so low? I have also checked out Kubota, but due to price and loader capacity, I am leaning toward nx4510. I have 35 acres of woods with some good hills. I will be doing lot of grapple work for logs and firewood, along with dragging trails. Thanks for your thoughts and or advice.
Question for NX owners
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AWSubie
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Durdy1, I have a NX5010 and I have never had a problem with ground clearance and the loader mount (torque arm). I also have the backhoe quick attach and it is much lower than the loader mount and I do have to go slowly across creeks that have steep approach angles because the backhoe quick attach mounts like to hang up on rocks. I too work in the woods often and the loader mount has never been an issue for me.
Thank you for info. Do you happen to have a cab model...I am trying to decide if it worth getting a cab, mostly for the future. I have a 97 chevy 1 ton with dump box and comercial plow with 46k on it. For money reasons I am toying with selling it, and I would have 1 less vehicle to maintain.
AWSubie
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I have the cab with HST transmission. I debated with myself about getting the cab. In the end, after considering the many summer days of high heat here in Texas, the idea of having A/C won out and I am very happy with the decision. Also, another incident that occurred about two weeks after owning the tractor, validated my decision (at least in my mind). I was working on clearing a path in the woods when I unknowingly ran over a very large yellow jacket ground nest. Within a matter of a few seconds, hundreds of wasps were swarming all around. Had I bought the open station I would have had to abandon the tractor and run. I would have had to wait a few hours or maybe till dusk until the wasps settled in for the night to retrieve the tractor. With the cab I just kept on working. Of course this one incident doesn't justify the cost of the cab, but I do feel that I get much more work done in inclement weather because my energy isn't being sapped by cold or heat.
xcgreene
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Most people it seems to me, who debate getting a cab at the beginning and don't, wind up wishing they had. It's only the people who know they really can't have a cab from the beginning, due to tight quarters work and threat of cab damage, that never look back wishing.
If I wasn't in the woods with mine so much, or cut the edge of my field so close, I would have absolutely gone for the cab. I still dream about having another tractor dedicated to the "out of harms way" jobs. Imagining myself in the cockpit on a frigid day snow blowing, all warm in my cab, 4 year old in the buddy seat.
If I wasn't in the woods with mine so much, or cut the edge of my field so close, I would have absolutely gone for the cab. I still dream about having another tractor dedicated to the "out of harms way" jobs. Imagining myself in the cockpit on a frigid day snow blowing, all warm in my cab, 4 year old in the buddy seat.
DieselBound
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If you're thinking about a cab then don't think about it, just get it! With a cab you can work in weather that you wouldn't otherwise work in; bugs are less of a problem, as is heat and cold. Folks that are running in thick wooded areas will advise to not have a cab, and I would tend to agree with them, though how to decide when it's too wooded is a tough call: I have lots of trees and often am smacking into limbs (most are soft alder) and have not, in about 215 hours, encountered any damage from such. Just have to be more aware of your surroundings: it's good advise no matter what. If I really need to get into tight, wooded quarters I just jump on my B7800 (and then have to watch out for taking branches and blackberries to the face/arms!).
Age is creeping up one me so I figured, especially after being beating around on my B7800, getting ripped up from blackberries (close to 1,200 hours I've put on this tractor in such an environment), a cab would be worth the added expense (comfort). I installed a bluetooth radio and can take calls, something that might be a bit trickier on a non-cabbed tractor. I also have a monitor system, though I've mucked up my front camera
I'm wanting to say that the cab ran about $3k extra for me. I tend to save money elsewhere (never bought a new car/truck) in which case that amount was fairly trivial and easy to justify (less than 10% added cost).
As far as that torque bar goes, there's plenty of other things under the tractor that present a graver concern. Unless one is going to be running full steam into brush and hidden logs I seriously doubt that this bar is going to ever be an issue. I don't like all the stuff that's down below, but I just accept that I'll never be four-wheeling with this NX like I've done with my B7800 (totally indestructible tractor!): parts for larger tractors are significantly more expensive! Anyway, even if one were to run up on that bar I'd figure the tractor would be readily able to power itself off whatever it climbed on to: if you have a loader your chances of becoming stuck are reduced quite a bit [and with a backhoe it drops to WAY down!]).
Get ballast in the rears (some do it in the fronts too, but that's a tough call- some situations might make sense). I've found that with ballast I'm pretty much able to lift to max capacity without being too tippy: I've done a LOT of loader work, scooped lots of gravel/material that's very heavy; have also hoisted some very huge tree trunks with my grapple. With my box blade on (about 1,200 lbs) there's zero sense of tipping (forward).
Age is creeping up one me so I figured, especially after being beating around on my B7800, getting ripped up from blackberries (close to 1,200 hours I've put on this tractor in such an environment), a cab would be worth the added expense (comfort). I installed a bluetooth radio and can take calls, something that might be a bit trickier on a non-cabbed tractor. I also have a monitor system, though I've mucked up my front camera
I'm wanting to say that the cab ran about $3k extra for me. I tend to save money elsewhere (never bought a new car/truck) in which case that amount was fairly trivial and easy to justify (less than 10% added cost).
As far as that torque bar goes, there's plenty of other things under the tractor that present a graver concern. Unless one is going to be running full steam into brush and hidden logs I seriously doubt that this bar is going to ever be an issue. I don't like all the stuff that's down below, but I just accept that I'll never be four-wheeling with this NX like I've done with my B7800 (totally indestructible tractor!): parts for larger tractors are significantly more expensive! Anyway, even if one were to run up on that bar I'd figure the tractor would be readily able to power itself off whatever it climbed on to: if you have a loader your chances of becoming stuck are reduced quite a bit [and with a backhoe it drops to WAY down!]).
Get ballast in the rears (some do it in the fronts too, but that's a tough call- some situations might make sense). I've found that with ballast I'm pretty much able to lift to max capacity without being too tippy: I've done a LOT of loader work, scooped lots of gravel/material that's very heavy; have also hoisted some very huge tree trunks with my grapple. With my box blade on (about 1,200 lbs) there's zero sense of tipping (forward).
Awsome info fellas. Thanks. My trails just have to be trimmed more vertical. I just walked the trails again to get a better idea of how tight my woods really are. I figure that I can cut anything I can't get to in the tractor and wrap a chain on it to pull it out to trail and then just use the grapple. I will be getting the cab. But now its time to sell the john deere 4400 and the plow truck. I will probably have to wait a little bit since we are having a pole barn built at the end of the month. I am trying to get all my research done now. I plan on running the next tractor for many years.