Pulled the trigger today on a Duramax

[buickanddeere]

The 3/4 or 1 ton gasser is still cheaper to run and has more than sufficient power.

 

[Fordman1981]

The 3/4 or 1 ton gasser is still cheaper to run and has more than sufficient power.

Then why do all the manufactures rate the gas options with less payload and less of a tow rating. When it comes to pulling the gas options are better than they have ever been that is true but they can not compete with the diesel option. Work a truck to or near it's rated limits day in and day out the diesel will hold up better than the gas. One of the reasons for this is that the diesel does not have to work as hard to do the same job.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Then why do all the manufactures rate the gas options with less payload and less of a tow rating. When it comes to pulling the gas options are better than they have ever been that is true but they can not compete with the diesel option. Work a truck to or near it's rated limits day in and day out the diesel will hold up better than the gas. One of the reasons for this is that the diesel does not have to work as hard to do the same job.

The gas options have cheaper transmissions in the Dodges and GM's. Ford gets the same Torque Shift. In some trims on the Ford's the gas engines are actually rated about 500# more than the diesels due to the weight penalties taken with the heavier diesel option.

I agree the diesel option will flat out pull the gas in the real world but not always on paper.

For me transmission is more important or as important as the engine. Look at modern vehicles, the tranny usually goes before the engine.

Chris

 

[Fordman1981]

The gas options have cheaper transmissions in the Dodges and GM's. Ford gets the same Torque Shift. In some trims on the Ford's the gas engines are actually rated about 500# more than the diesels due to the weight penalties taken with the heavier diesel option.

I agree the diesel option will flat out pull the gas in the real world but not always on paper.

For me transmission is more important or as important as the engine. Look at modern vehicles, the tranny usually goes before the engine.

Chris

Go to build and price on ford.com

Select F350 and dual rear wheels. If you select the 6.2 you have a tow rating of 13,100 lbs if you select the 6.7 PS you have a tow rating of 23,900 lbs. If you select the single rear wheel the 6.2 has a tow rating of 13,100 the 6.7 has a tow rating of 16,700 lbs so the limiting factor is the gas engine being as the SRW and the DRW 6.2 truck has the same tow rating. But you were partially right the payload is slightly higher with the gas engine.

 

[mikehaugen]

IIRC, up until the mid 2000's when companies were still offering v10's and bb v8's the tow rating was the same as the diesel. Wish it was still an option. Now they have forced people into a diesel if you want to tow big.

 

[Fordman1981]

IIRC, up until the mid 2000's when companies were still offering v10's and bb v8's the tow rating was the same as the diesel. Wish it was still an option. Now they have forced people into a diesel if you want to tow big.

Just my opinion but I don't think the V10 would not do very well with the weights the diesels are capable of today. I have a V10 in a 450 box truck and when it's loaded it loses speed speed on the interstate in passing gear. I've had much more weight on the PS equipped trucks and the 6.7 CTD equipped trucks and there is no comparison the diesels make the V10 look like a dog. On top of the lack of power the V10 box truck gets 7.5 to 8.2 mpg empty and I've seen as bad as 6.4 mpg loaded. Horrible gas mileage lack of power no thank you. Don't remember the exact model year of the box truck off the top of my head right now but it was the last year of the V10 production.

 

[mikehaugen]

You are right, I was just stating the that the ratings were the same. That was also before the diesel wars really took off like have now.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Go to build and price on ford.com

Select F350 and dual rear wheels. If you select the 6.2 you have a tow rating of 13,100 lbs if you select the 6.7 PS you have a tow rating of 23,900 lbs. If you select the single rear wheel the 6.2 has a tow rating of 13,100 the 6.7 has a tow rating of 16,700 lbs so the limiting factor is the gas engine being as the SRW and the DRW 6.2 truck has the same tow rating. But you were partially right the payload is slightly higher with the gas engine.

I said "in some trims".

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

IIRC, up until the mid 2000's when companies were still offering v10's and bb v8's the tow rating was the same as the diesel. Wish it was still an option. Now they have forced people into a diesel if you want to tow big.

The EPA forced you.....

Chris

 

[Fordman1981]

I said "in some trims". Chris

Ok show me a trim that the gas engine can tow more than the ps.