I decided on the Kioti 72" RMM, FEL, R4 tires and Kioti 72" Rake. My question is this: Has anyone measured the overall length from front of bucket to tail of the 72" rear mower? I've got 18' in my garage to work with. I did get the mid-folding ROPS (dealer just happened to have one on another CK30 and offered to switch it out for me). The FEL was already installed on mine. BTW, before we spotted the new version ROPS on another section of his lot, the dealer called Kioti and was told that the mid-folding ROPS wasn't even available! Funny, there was one right in front of us! Go figure! Guess they must have a pot-load of the older style ROPS to get rid of. In any event, thanks for the wealth of info on this forum. I had pretty much narrowed my choice down to the two orange machines and you validated my final decision to hop on the CK30! Delivery on Friday and all weekend to wring it out, in a "breakin" kinda way. The Kioti implements look to be of top quality, if not a tad more expensive than some other choices. I just couldn't have orange, yellow and red in one unit. Too much like a gigantic fire! Sorry for the rambling post, but what the hey, it's my first. I'll try to tighten it up next time! Regards, Ace /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif