Preparing yard for trees

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Mean Jean

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Hi all.

Looking to prepare an area for planting.
Roughly 20 yards by 200 yards.
Currently it is all lawn.
I've got a tiller but was advised to tear out the grass first.
What is the best implement/method for tearing up lawn?

Thanks all.
 
   / Preparing yard for trees #2  
Puzzled about why you feel a need to tear up the lawn just to plant trees.

A little info about what trees you are planting, where you are located, what soil you have to work with, size of trees to be planted, etc.

What is the future maintenance planned for between the trees? That will likely dictate what soil prep is needed now.
 
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#3  
Small town North East of Winnipeg, MB.
Planting willows, poplars, spruce, pine.
All going in as saplings, no more than a foot tall.
Will be running a cultivator up and down the rows to keep the weeds back.
Fair bit of clay.

Was advised that removing the sod first will make it easier to till the area.
 
   / Preparing yard for trees #4  
That info helps.

Don't have any idea why removing the sod would be helpful, and even exposes the soil to erosion. The sod isn't your enemy here, but your friend. Exposing the soil will bring a multitude of weeds from seed that can't grow through the grass. That you don't want, and why I don't recommend using Roundup to kill everything first.

What I did (13 years ago) with 5 acre planting of oak, white pine, and white spruce was to use a single subsoiler tooth, rip the ground open along the planting strip. The following spring I hand planted the seedlings in the ripped path. Sprayed to keep the weed competition (Oust is what I used) down, and mowed between the trees to keep the tall grass down. Worked super well. The ripped ground allowed for easy dibble planting and surface water to seep in easily and keep the trees well watered.

Forty years ago, I planted a thousand black walnut trees in a plowed field. Put them in on carefully laid out 10 x 10 ft spacing and cultivated for the first 12-15 years. But the cultivating damages the roots near the surface, and I would do that again (and not that I ever will have to make that decision :) ). Erosion is the enemy with complete cultivation, as well as expensive with today's fuel prices.

Now, if you are planning a nursery then the picture changes from just planning a forest or woodlot. :)
 
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#5  
2 major benefits to removing sod:
-trees won't have to compete for water versus sod.
-need only run the cultivator every 10 days versus mowing every 5 (roughly)

Wherher its beneficial is another topic for debate.

I want to remove the sod and am seeking adise on best way.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
   / Preparing yard for trees #6  
OK, sorry to distract from your post. Roundup will last a long time too. :)

I remove sod with a rototiller.
Bucket doesn't work, and the other alternative is a sod cutter, but then you have to roll it up and carry it away. Might be able to sell it at that point.
 
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I think a tiller would make less of a mess, or you could plow it. That would keep some of your top soil in place. I guess it would depend on the type of grass also, whether it spreads like our Bermuda (runners) or not.

Other wise I'd have a grader come in and scrape it off.
 
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I want to avoid using strictly a tiller.
I tried that last year and the grass roots got caught in the tines.

Grader would be A1 although I want to avoid having to wait on someones help.
Makes the project drag when you are waiting on someone.

Maye a plow first.
Turn it over then bust it up with tiller?
 
   / Preparing yard for trees #9  
Yeah, do that.
 
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#10  
Thanks very much for the advise, I really appreciate it.
 

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