Winches Poor man's logging winch

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#21  
If it was a "Poor man's logging winch" you'd be using a HF $49 2,500 lb winch :)

Looks good. Get a strap for your FEL bucket to anchor against the nearest tree.

And there is the logweight calculator at woodweb.

/edit - Nice use of Anderson style connectors.

The weight calculator is cool. I put in a typical log I pull and it came out 406#. I may be OK here.
 
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#22  
I like your very neat setup and use if high grade electrical connectors.
I would use a clamshell snatchblock, possibly a self releasing one to minimize the forces on your tractor and to increase overall pulling strength by double the winches capability alone. Plus you get an advantage of being able to be out of the way of anything that might fly toward you/tractor like broken cable, hooks etc.
Igland makes wicked excellent clamshell snatch blocks, some models are self releasing. I would possibly incorporate your old Tundra as your anchor point for the snatch block, attaching it to the rear receiver as the pivot point and then having the tractor directly behind the truck or at an angle to keep you out of harm's way. Then you could watch the cable as it pulls your log(s) out of the woods.
Link:Igland Snatch block with automatic release - YouTube
Another thing to use to minimize the drag/snagging on the winch cable is a log cone:Portable Winch Skidding Cone for Logs up to a Diameter of 2in | SHERRILLtree

I have an Igland winch and snatch block, though not self releasing, so I know what an advantage using a winch of any kind can be. You can place a blanket or jacket or other similar object on the winch cable while hauling the cable toward the tractor to stop a cable snap from going wild and doing damage. This method takes the tension stored in the taught cable out instantly, saving the bacon: YOU.

Best to roll out your cable entire length and roll it back up without a load before use to help keep it from snagging on the spool. You can do this by attaching it to an object/ truck etc., then drive away slowly. Then wind it up by hand while operating the winch, possibly with someone on the hook end if you can't do both as a single person.

Have fun, be safe, MORE pics!

Great ideas. I haven't thought of any of this. As soon as it stops raining I will get started. It's been a wet March and April in SW Washington.
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #23  
Operate the winch without sitting in the seat. If anything goes haywire, you won't be flipped.
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #24  
What about adding a deep cycle marine battery(separate from the tractor charging system) and charge as needed.
 
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#26  
Thanks for all the good input. When the rain stops I will start sea trails.
 
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#27  
The deep cycle marine battery is an idea. The battery is only a few months old.
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #28  
yeah, don't buckle-up in case u have to bail-out. Just sayin. HeHeHe
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #29  
There are wireless remote kits for winches. I'm curious how well it works for repeated pulls- these winches usually have a fairly low duty cycle.
I've been thinking of making something like this but for a 3pt not BH as I don't have one.
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #30  
I found logging in my case was much easier by just getting a 50' and 100' cable. I can either pull them straight of the woods with the truck or tractor w/o the winch a lot faster. In the case where the angles for pulling don't quite work out I just use a pulley attached to a tree in the general direction I want the tree to go.

That's what I use, 50 and 100' cables and snatch blocks. Tractor only.

To pull logs out of swales and my creek, I like to get close and pull up with
my hoe if it can lift them, but it works MUCH better to use my loader, and a
boom pole mounted to the front for reach.

As for the winches, I recently installed one of the HF winches in the bed of my
pickup and it works really well. I esp like the wireless remote. It is very LOUD,
however.
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #31  
I installed a Superwinch 3500 in place of the backhoe bucket on my BX24. I need to tidy up the wiring but the winch works great. I set it up so everything except the battery wires and circuit breaker in the under the dash area come off the tractor when the winch is not in use. I just use the remote to control the winch. I didn't use the ATV handlebar switch that comes with the winch for obvious reasons.
I built a wooden box for the solenoid and connections which mounts to the ROP. This comes off with 2 bolts. I will use the winch during the time of year I cut firewood. After that the bucket goes back. I used more connectors than I needed but I want the system to break down to small parts for storage.
Our property is very steep and I need to get trees up to the road to process them for firewood. Decades ago I just cut trees into pieces and humped them up to the road. I have been backing the tractor up and pulling logs with hooks on the FEL bucket. This got too exciting when I would raise the bucket up to get a better angle.
Winch $179
Adapter for 2" receiver $75
Bxpanded 2" receiver replacing bucket $129
6 ga wire and miscellaneous connectors and crimper $45

I would rather have a Wallenstein FX35, but these cost $3000+.

I just threw in a picture of our view for the heck of it. That's a cruise ship that was in the Portland shipyard for repairs. It's headed out to sea at Astoria, OR. Sometimes really steep property is worth it.

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You certainly deserve full marks for creativity, but I think a heavier tractor is in order if you plan on pulling logs of any real size.

I've looked at few different tractor skidding winches and here's the one I'm most interested in.

Skid-Winch | Portable Sawmills and Forestry Equipment

I like the simple capstan winch concept and that you can run as long a rope as you want. I have large beaver pond that I need to pull logs across and this would ideal.
 
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You certainly deserve full marks for creativity, but I think a heavier tractor is in order if you plan on pulling logs of any real size.

I've looked at few different tractor skidding winches and here's the one I'm most interested in.

Skid-Winch | Portable Sawmills and Forestry Equipment

I like the simple capstan winch concept and that you can run as long a rope as you want. I have large beaver pond that I need to pull logs across and this would ideal.

I watched the video and it looks way safer than my scheme. There is no way I would tackle a log that size with my little winch. I wonder how much a Skid Winch costs?
 
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   / Poor man's logging winch #33  
I watched the video and it looks way safer than my scheme. There is no way I would tackle a log that size with my little winch. I wonder how much a Log-Hog costs?
I got a quote from them a while back and I think it was around $1750. CAD plus freight, which seems quite reasonable to me.

I think that's about $1300 USD, if that's where you are.
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #34  
Across and upriver a bit:

winch.jpg

Bruce
 
   / Poor man's logging winch #35  
I rigged a larger style winch that is mounted a 2 x 2 tubing that I slip into the trailer tube that I have on my 3 point weight.
Using a long extension for the controls makes fun of logging and quite safe.
My tractor battery is rather oversize at 960 CCA and my alternator seems capable of topping it up between pulls.
I also rigged a skid plate to prevent snagging.
Now I must admit that my 'logging' is somewhat minimal and only occasional so it works for me.
That is to say that electric winching can be practical on a limited basis.
 
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I rigged a larger style winch that is mounted a 2 x 2 tubing that I slip into the trailer tube that I have on my 3 point weight.
Using a long extension for the controls makes fun of logging and quite safe.
My tractor battery is rather oversize at 960 CCA and my alternator seems capable of topping it up between pulls.
I also rigged a skid plate to prevent snagging.
Now I must admit that my 'logging' is somewhat minimal and only occasional so it works for me.
That is to say that electric winching can be practical on a limited basis.

Mine is limited too. I do about 10-12 cord a year to feed the Finnish heater and keep the trees from over growing the place. I enjoyed wiring up the winch but it may not be the best tool.
 
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I got a quote from them a while back and I think it was around $1750. CAD plus freight, which seems quite reasonable to me.

I think that's about $1300 USD, if that's where you are.

This sounds pretty reasonable. Breaking into the hydraulic system every time I want to winch sounds daunting. I will give them a call and find out more.
 

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